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I have Jones in Wales as well, so you have my sympathies.

Ages should occasionally be taken with a pinch of salt. Some of my lines are very consistent, others not so much. My Welsh lines are not so much. One of mine, Walter Jones, varies his age on census so much that his date of birth was anything between 1805 and 1821- tailored somewhat to each of his two wives (the first being significantly older, the second being significantly younger). He was actually born, or at least christened, in 1808, which matches his eventual death. A difference of two years isn't much sometimes, especially when ages can vary a year depending on whether or not someone has had their birthday at the time. I think at 19 she'd still have needed parental permission to marry (?) so fibbing about that seems odd.

And yes, certificates obtained from the GRO can contain errors because they are copies of the originals. I have a few that have mistakes, such as one that has a marriage date of 1888 when the original image and index are 1887 and another where the middle name was written as Henderson when she was Harrison. If the original wasn't clear it's possible the copy was miswritten, or just a mistake happened. There are a lot of times that the original has errors though, intentionally or otherwise.

Thank goodness for little notes!

I wonder if that transcription has "Jho" instead of "Tho" (Thomas) and has just inputted that as the father. (Edit- There's another one that does say "Thomas" as father). Just goes to show sometimes you can't trust transcriptions and original records should be double checked if possible!

I'd also look for variations of Hannah (such as Anna or even Anne). Sometimes it depended on what the person writing it heard.

Do you have a death/burial for Hannah, or anything that might indicate her approximate birth?

I've got that problem with one of my illegitimates- her middle name is Uglow, the surname of her uncle's wife, so we wondered if one of her aunt's brothers might have done the deed. Many DNA hits show that we are indeed related to that family, however I don't yet have any DNA hits with the supposed grandmother's side of the family. There was technically nothing stopping the 'grandfather' from sowing his oats after all... or maybe oddly nobody on the Kittow side has tested. I am waiting for more people to test in the hope it becomes more clear... all I can do really.

One of the problems with matching trees together is that everyone's trees have to be accurate. I can't even promise that mine is, only that it is meant to be. Sometimes I've looked at other trees and seen people fathering children before puberty or after death etc that makes it so hard to figure out what's true and what's not.

One of my most notorious matches was a 3rd cousin who kept matching with cousins on my WOOD line but her family didn't line up. We eventually realised there was a descendant of the common ancestors in her tree... married to her grandmother's sister...