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Hello all.

I have a new 3-4th cousin DNA match (yay!) on my JONES line (yay!)

Our shared matches suggest that she is indeed related somewhere around JONES - GRIFFITHS and I have my suspicions, but I might need the eagle eyed assistance of our spectacular Rootschatters.

She has in her tree her great-grandmother Elizabeth Gladys Myfanwy DAVIES, born around 1900, died 1921.

I have in my tree Elizabeth Gladys (or Gwladys) Myfanwy JONES, 1899, illegitimate daughter of Hannah JONES. This would put our shared ancestors as my mother's g-g-grandparents, alongside another 3-4th cousin match.

One might be thinking here- but these two ladies have two different surnames!

True, but I can't trace EGM or her mother after 1901 and my match can't trace her EGM backwards. There are possibilities:
- DAVIES was the surname of EGM's biological father.
- Hannah went on to marry a DAVIES after 1901.
- EGM was later raised in her aunt's household, who married a DAVIES.
To name only three.

Further communication led to her mentioning her mother remembered a "Theo" who moved from Garnant to Swansea. I know that my EGM's first cousin Theophilus DAVIES moved to Ystalyfera, Glamorganshire from the Garnant area.

I am hoping to either finally manage to trace mine forward, hers backwards, or both. Their names don't make it easy.

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Elizabeth G(w)ladys Myfanwy JONES

Born 2 qr 1899, Llanegwad, Llandilofawr. Christened 2nd June 1899.

Census 1901:
Hannah JONES 1866 Llanfihangel Abercowin
Elizabeth G W (corrected to M) JONES 1899 Llanegwad
Elizabeth JONES 1820 Llanwinio

Not found after 1901.

When Elizabeth JONES nee GRIFFITHS dies shortly after the census was taken the informant was her son in law Henry DAVIES.

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Elizabeth Gladys Myfanwy DAVIES

Not found on census.

Married David REES (cousin says she thinks she might have seen the cert at some point?)
Edit- She's now amended her tree to John David REES, marriage January 1916 Llandilofawr. This might make it either the one with "Lizzie DAVIES" or potentially "Elizabeth M DAVIES".

Two children- P E 1919 and G M M 1921, both with mmn DAVIES. (Both are dead, but I didn't want to get too specific. I think P E may have been born E P)

Died 2 qr 1921, Llandilofawr (approx dob 1900). I've been told “9 days” after the birth, but also “three weeks”. 9 days would mean death took place around 4th April, which would potentially mean she hadn't turned 22 yet if she was born late May/early June. [Edited April from May, because I don't know months of the year apparently. Blame the migraine]

Events took place in Garnant.

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Pity the 1921 isn't out yet, things might get a bit clearer!

Even if I can't get mine forward, I'd like to be able to help her link hers back to me, or else find alternative ancestry for her. It's her direct line and it would be nice to get results.

Any help appreciated.

Ayashi

Hello all.

My mother has a DNA match whose tree is... interesting to say the least. He has claimed two common ancestral pairs with me, neither of whom appear to actually be related to him.

One of these individuals is fairly easily traced and disproved. The other is not. When asked how he got the link between his ancestor and mine he was completely unable to offer any explanation and seemed very confused.

I don't really like criticising someone else's tree without offering some alternative theory for them to follow. In the case of this woman, I have no idea where her line comes from at all.

The individual is Ann COOPER (in his tree as Mary Ann COOPER, but I've seen no record to add the Mary) 1831 Hasland, Derbyshire.
She married Levi ORWIN 25th January 1851, Chesterfield. Her father was Joseph COOPER, an ironstone miner. One of the witnesses was a Samuel COOPER (the other John COWLEY). Abode for both is Tapton.

I have not yet been able to find an obvious Joseph on the 1851, nor an obvious christening. Looking at other trees that have the couple, nobody else has been able to either.

I wondered if the eagle-eyed and sharp witted folks of RC might have better luck.

Thanks in advance,
Ayashi

Among my mother's DNA matches I've found a large Shared DNA group.

So far this group, excluding my mother, is made up of 23 different people, 17 of whom I can trace back to a particular couple via three of their children (so not all descended from the same child). Unfortunately I have no idea whatsoever how that original couple relates to me, by name or by geographical area.

The group are all 4-6th cousins and range between 22cm on 1 to 34cm on 2.

I've been reading a lot on here lately about how smaller amounts of DNA might be "background noise". In theory, if this couple had a coincidental section of DNA that got passed down... In short, how likely is it that this sprawling group is or is not actually related to my mother?

They grew in number today and so does my headache trying to figure it out!

Ayashi

This is more of a sulk than anything...

A DNA cousin of mine matched up and I agreed to send her copies of my info, except I didn't know where I put my original images of PRs from our Welsh line. So I went onto FindMyPast where I found them originally and they were gone...

Asked about it...

"Unfortunately some Welsh parishes have asked for their records to be removed from Findmypast, and Meidrim is one of them. We have complied with their wishes and removed the records, though it doesn't appear FamilySearch have removed references to them."

Wish I'd known that before I bought a new sub just for access to those records...

 

I could only really find those records on FindMyPast. Are they gone from the whole internet?

Ayashi

I've been having a casual poke at the SCHOLLICK (and variant spellings) family on behalf of someone else. I've found a fair amount for her but there's one thing that is frustrating me- one man who is not born and does not die. I've about come to the conclusion of "alien abduction" but thought I'd see if another set of eyes is able to navigate the twisty turns of family history and see what I've missed.

Philip SCHOLLICK (also SCHOLICK, SCOLICK, SKOLICK etc) interchangably a farmer and a weaver (children's christenings).
Date and place of birth unknown.
Married Hannah WALKER 1778-1857 - she was a Quaker who converted and was christened two days before the marriage in 1796, Kendal. I don't know her parents anything either.
The last child that I can see was Mary 1812 (previous child that I can find Thomas c.1806) christened Askham.

There is an article in the UK City and County Directory in 1829 (image available on Ancestry) for a Philip SCHOLICK, which simply lists him as a farmer of Askham with no other specifics.

Hannah appears without him in 1841 and is a widow on 1851.

As an aside, there is a tree that gives their daughter Sarah GRAVESON a date of death/burial of 17 Jul 1833 (Kendal?) but no source and I can't see it, so if anyone has any eagle eyes on that one I'd be grateful for the confirmation.

Any help appreciated.

Regards
Ayashi