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The Lighter Side / Re: Enumerator stumped by language
« on: Wednesday 30 March 22 21:01 BST (UK)  »
Well, he/she seemed to do quite well! I do hope whoever is related to them has other censuses to work from though.

I do have minor language barriers with a Welsh ancestor who moved to England (and whose birthplace isn't spelled the same way twice as a result) and one Scots ancestor who moved to England, where the only reference to his place of birth is "Dumfarling". We have taken to assume this is Dunfermline...

The Common Room / Re: Come to a complete end?
« on: Monday 28 March 22 22:59 BST (UK)  »
That's about where all of mine end, as well. In my case I tend to find that even if the records exist, and even if they existed back to 15th, they lack information to differentiate between people and all of my ancestors were common as muck. If there are five different John BROWNs with no occupation or age, bonus points if they all married women of the same forename, I am unlikely to know which one is mine.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Census vs gravestone
« on: Sunday 20 March 22 22:34 GMT (UK)  »
According to the gravestone of my 2xgt grandfather he was buried two days before he died. Poor fella  ;D

Family History Beginners Board / Re: English naming practice 1700s
« on: Monday 14 March 22 21:05 GMT (UK)  »
Usually if the father and grandfather had the same name there would only be one child who honoured everybody of that name. On the odd occasion there might be an anomaly, particularly if the name was considered especially important and the parents wanted to ensure at least one child of that name reached adulthood, but generally not.

In my experience, reusing the dead name occurred with the next birth of a child of the appropriate gender.

A lot of mine didn't follow naming convention well. My lines from Cornwall in particular often picked names with no apparent relevance to anything. Add in some religious families who named from the Bible and some names come out of nowhere. I'm sure in some cases traditional naming pattern took a backseat to other considerations such as who in the family was most liked, who was wealthiest or more influential, honouring someone who was sick or had recently died, honouring someone out of gratitude etc so that even if all the names are in there somewhere they might have different priorities behind them.

The Common Room / Re: Is a DNA test really worthwhile ?
« on: Sunday 13 March 22 14:07 GMT (UK)  »
It's awkward when that happens and no doubt it can cause a lot of hurt in a family. In my case, my great grandmother (who was married with four children already) had an affair with her lodger and ran away with him. She gave birth to my grandfather, who was registered with her affair partner's name. Family resemblance, and later DNA, proved her husband was the biological father. We've recorded our tree by DNA, but that doesn't mean the legal father wasn't part of my grandfather's history. Did they know at the time who the father was? We'll never know.

Depending on how you feel about this, it opens you up to having even more tree than you did before- the genetic tree and the emotional one. For many, the family connections are more important than any blood. If a man raised a child, that interaction would shape the child regardless of DNA. In the case of a man who died when the child was four years old... That's still a part of the child's history but I admit I probably would be pretty frustrated with the time spent on it.

The man you researched is presumably still someone's family. You might find it at least a little cathartic to help out some people who are related to him trace their family back. At least then you might feel like you still did something worthwhile.

The Common Room / Re: One of ye holbatteares
« on: Saturday 05 March 22 16:50 GMT (UK)  »
My first thought was "the Halberdiers". An innkeeper with a military attachment?

The Common Room / Re: 1730 will tried to keep grandson away from father: why?
« on: Sunday 20 February 22 17:24 GMT (UK)  »
My first ponder is- is it the child that should not be in the custody or power of the father or the money left to the underage grandson? I've heard of people inheriting money with a caveat that husbands etc could not lay claim to it, possibly because they would spend it in inadvisable ways. The way you word it does make it sound like the child but words in 1730 might not have been meant the same way.

(Snap, Carole  :) )

The Common Room / Re: Heirlooms rant
« on: Wednesday 16 February 22 17:20 GMT (UK)  »
The other problem with inheriting is knowing what is an heirloom and what isn't. Somewhere around the house we've got a cup belonging to my great-grandfather. I have no idea which cup it is. My mother doesn't like being asked questions and will clam up about it.

We've got a few heirlooms that I can identify. One of my mother's cousins is very focused on one area of our tree and when she found out we had the family bible her immediate response was "Why do you have it?" Err... because we are descended from them as well??

When my grandmother was a child she apparently sneaked into an archaeological dig in Bath and stole the finger off a Roman skeleton. Nobody knows what happened to it after she died.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: An address in Coldstream, Scotland
« on: Friday 11 February 22 23:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks all. I must consign myself to having had a colossal brainfart when I saw the document. All the same, something I hadn't seen before and I guess nice to have more description of him!

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