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Hi all

Here it is: Thomas EDWARDS and his family emigrated to South Australia in 1850. I found them in the 1841 census listed as a farmer in the township of Llanforda*, near Oswestry, Shropshire. there the trail runs cold. The commonality of the EDWARDS name, and the unreliability of early 19th century parish records, makes further conclusive proof difficult. It seems to be an irony that the more recent the parish records are, the less useful information they contain.

(*sometimes rendered as Llanvorda)

The online indexes of the Oswestry Parish Registers of the 16th-18th centuries, as well as some Denbighshire and Shropshire county records, list an EDWARDS family as farmers of a property called "The Mountain" in Llanforda. While I have located no property of that name, there is a 'Llanforda Uchaf', a significant farm of appropriate vintage located on what appears to be one of the higher hills of Llanforda. (I base this on researching maps, I have not been there)

"Uchaf"  translates from the Welsh as "Highest, Uppermost". My gut feeling is that this is the place, my ancestral home, however I have no proof.

Is there some authority I can correspond with in the UK that can confirm the previous residents of a particular address? Any advice greatly appreciated

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Shropshire / Oswestry Parish Registers
« on: Sunday 08 March 15 04:29 GMT (UK)  »
Is there any website that you can access these registers after 1812?

Cheers
Nudge

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Australia / Adelina SIBLEY, Imposter?
« on: Sunday 12 May 13 03:08 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if the South Oz experts here could cast their eyes on this topic from an Australian perspective?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,646610.0.html

Cheers
Nudge

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Australia / DEGENHARDT brothers and their spouses - South OZ
« on: Sunday 12 May 13 02:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi all.

In 1846, the four brothers DEGENHARDT came to Adelaide from Hanover aboard the Heerjeebhoy R. Patel. They were:

Johann Carl Augustus (28)
Friedrich (26)
Carl Hermann (20)
Gustav Julius Wilhelm (??)

Two years later, the rest of the DEGENHARDT family emigrated aboard the George Washington. They were:
Carl Heinrich Christian (58), father (d. @ sea)
Johanna Dorothea Friedericke nee LADER (55), mother (d. @ sea)
Johann Carl Ludwig (Louis) (24), brother
Wilhelm Heinrich (16), brother
Auguste Louise (14), sister (d. @ sea)
Emilie Sophie Luise CHRISTOPH (32), sister
Heinrich Christian August CHRISTOPH (33), brother-in-law

also listed as travelling with the family, as single women, were:
Ida HAMSTER; her sister
Fredricke Caroline (Lina) HAMSTER; and
Marie Sophie Wilhelmine (Louisa) SCHWANECKE.

Louisa SCHWANECKE married Gustav DEGENHARDT in SA.

Lina HAMSTER and Louis DEGENHARDT had a child within 6 months of arrival in Adelaide. Were they ever married? What happened to Ida HAMSTER?
 
Can anyone provide approximate birthdates for the 3 single women, and Gustav DEGENHARDT?

Thanks
Nudge

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Cornwall / Adelina SIBLEY of Bodmin
« on: Sunday 12 May 13 01:56 BST (UK)  »
In 1856, Adelina SIBLEY of Bodmin, a single woman aged 22, migrated to South Australia aboard Hooghly. On the same ship were the families of two SIBLEY brothers of St Teath:

Joseph SIBLEY (33)
Susannah nee OLIVER (32)
Susannah (10)
Elizabeth Ann Olive (8)
Joseph (6)
James Oliver (4)
Adelina (2)
Emma (1)
Simon Libby (born @ sea)

Simon Libby SIBLEY (29)
Elizabeth nee CORY (29)
Alfred (1)
Esther (baby)

Can anyone tell me if/how Adelina is related to these families? SIBLEY is sometimes spelt SIBLY.

Thanks
Nudge

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The Common Room / Is this family history, or a furphy?
« on: Sunday 12 May 13 01:35 BST (UK)  »
from the Miscellaneous column in The Border Watch, Mount Gambier, South Australia, 25 March 1874:

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THE great grand-father of Thomas Edwards died at one hundred a fourteen; the grandfather at one hundred and four, but the father died at the early age of sixty-seven. His young son Edward, now only ninety-five, recklessly committed matrimony with a chit of seventy. That is what becomes of an unadvised orphan.

My great-great-great-grandfather Thomas Edwards (b. ~10/1800) arrived in South Australia from Llanforda, near Oswestry, Shropshire, in 1850, with his two sons Thomas Henry (b. 1833) and John (b.1835). After success in the goldfields (they found 255 ounces in 5 months) they established themselves as major landholders, publicans, businessmen, councillors and JP's. Thomas Edwards was a leading local identity in Mount Gambier until his death in 1890. It is reasonable to assume that the paper is referring to him, with no-one else of that name known in the district.

All I know of his father is that his name was John. And I know of no Edward. But longevity is an Edwards family trait.

What do I make of this? Is this little snippet in the paper a clue to going back further in my family tree? Or is it just a nonsense space-filling riddle driving me to distraction?

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Australia Lookups completed / Death notice error? COMPLETED
« on: Monday 05 March 12 08:45 GMT (UK)  »
Death notice in The Advertiser, 2 June 1915

"RHYMER - On 26th May, at Hawker, Ronald Rees, beloved son of A.H. & M. Rhymer, aged 31 years and 5 months."

But Ronald Rees RHYMER was only twelve at the time. He was born Christmas Eve, 1903.

Is this an error? or am I missing something?

Cheers
Nudge

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Australia / What happened to William MILLS in SA?
« on: Wednesday 22 February 12 09:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all. My 3G-Grandmother, Silvestra FLOATE, came to South Oz in Jan 1839 with her husband William MILLS, and children John and Amy. We thought William died soon after, and that she married Charles STEPHENS at Cowdilla, SA, around 1840. He died in 1849, and she then married James De VINE in Adelaide on 24/7/1854.

But an article in the SA Register on 23 May 1846 reporting on a casein the Police Commissioner's Court, involving her and Charles STEPHENS:
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In cross-examination, Mr Poulden elicited that the battle was rather "of the kind called royal;" also that the firm of ' Stevens and Float" consisted of a man and a woman. Witness could not say whether they were man and wife. Sylvester Float, who described herself as the wife of William Mills, a person of whose residence she was ignorant, confirmed the evidence of the complainant.

Was William MILLS still alive in 1846? and dead by 1854? Were Silvestra and Charles STEPHENS actually married? Can anyone solve this mystery? Any BDM's would be helpful.

Cheers
Nudge
So

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Australia / Joseph CAUDWELL, Victoria 1852?
« on: Tuesday 21 February 12 13:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all. We have a Tasmanian convict, Joseph CAUDWELL, b. 1794, who was recommended for pardon on 12 Aug 1851. After 1850, his family in England lost contact with him and presumed him dead. His son, Joseph Lowe CAUDWELL, emigrated to gold-rush Victoria, arriving 27/8/1852.

Trove shows a CAUDWELL travelling to Melbourne in September 1852. Could that be Joseph Snr?

Any help with BDM's appreciated.

Cheers
Nudge

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