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The Common Room / Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« on: Wednesday 03 April 24 21:13 BST (UK)  »
I can only add that I think it very likely that your dining car attendant was a member of the N U R,
Warwick university’s records for the national union of railwaymen are available to search on find my past, for years between 1925-1928, it is possible he was a member in 1928.

If these have already been consulted i apologise for bringing this up again.

Mike
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t3e/

I have been looking at the records Mike suggested but had no luck finding him under any of his names. There are Dining Car Attendants listed so I entered that as a keyword with no name in case his name had been mistranscribed, I also tried the same with the keyword Waiter.  Maybe this time span is too early for his railway employment.

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The Common Room / Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« on: Wednesday 03 April 24 15:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi Bob,
Thanks for sharing the lovely photo of Madge, it's good to put a face to a name.

You mentioned a few weeks ago that you bumped into your mother's sister, I wonder if it's possible to have another chat with her.  As we have found, the smallest snippet of information can lead to another avenue of research.  Often people remember small things which they don't feel are important enough to mention, but can sometimes come out in a casual chat.

I believe we have found the right man, but from your recent posts I can now see why you feel circumstantial evidence is not enough.  We'll keep plodding on  ;)

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The Lighter Side / Re: New genealogy novel
« on: Tuesday 02 April 24 13:17 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Roobarb! Got it.
We can always rely on you to let us know when a good genealogy book deal pops up  :D

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The Common Room / Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« on: Tuesday 12 March 24 01:54 GMT (UK)  »
Not the sharpest picture but here they are, The June Sisters.
(Photo 5 at the bottom). 

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The Common Room / Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« on: Monday 11 March 24 19:12 GMT (UK)  »
The Stage, 6 Jan 1921.

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The Common Room / Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« on: Monday 11 March 24 18:23 GMT (UK)  »
Brilliant finds Sc00p, and jonw65.

UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Departure   Cape Town, South Africa
Arrival   10 Apr 1921 Southampton, England
Ship Name: Norman

Spiers, Ellen Amelia
Spiers, Grace Mabel
Spiers, Ida Nellie



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The Common Room / Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« on: Sunday 10 March 24 20:15 GMT (UK)  »
I spent yesterday talking to my Mother to see if any memories could be unlocked. Nothing significant, only the following:

2. She recalls sometime on the late 50s that Madge dropped into a rare conversation that Alf came from a 'well to do' family and was disinherited. Intriguing, but no further info.

I thought I would post this "In Memoriam" announcement placed by Edward Spiers' family 2 years after his death.  It's interesting to see that it's from his mother, sisters and brothers - no mention of his son Albert.  I am guessing that after Albert's mother, Agnes, took him with her to live with her new man, William Abbott, the Spiers family had little or no contact with young Albert.  This may be what was meant by "was disinherited".   Just a thought.


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The Common Room / Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« on: Saturday 09 March 24 12:41 GMT (UK)  »
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Edwards Spiers death was 15 May 1913
  Reply #122, p14

There appears to be a burial record for Edward Spiers in Findagrave and Witton Cemetery records, May 1913.  No middle name, but correct age and month.

https://birminghamburialrecords.co.uk/#

Yes!  Here is the newspaper announcement dated 19 May 1913 mentioning his mother Jane.

There is also a basic transcript of the burial on FindMyPast, the only additional information is his middle name being confirmed as Newland.  There may or may not be more useful details on the original (£10 to download from the site posted by MollyC)


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The Common Room / Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« on: Saturday 09 March 24 12:22 GMT (UK)  »
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He died 15 Aug 1943
Reply #12, page 2

There is also a record at Witton for "Alfred Wilson  Unknown - 1943"
Burial Sep 1943
Worth checking.

Unfortunately this isn't the Alfred Wilson we are looking for, this one was aged 69 and married to Florence for 47 years.

Newspaper announcement of the death in the Birmingham Mail on 4th Sept 1943:

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