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Cheshire / Re: Does anybody know Luke Ruffley?
« on: Saturday 21 June 08 23:42 BST (UK)  »
Been there, done that, Carole, his father's name is James.

IGI have a few James Roughlys in Lancashire but none that stand out.  Luke does not appear on IGI but, worse, he doesn't show up on Ancestry either.  I've looked at Stockport parish church records - he isn't there.  I know from what I have read that Stockport covers a pretty big area but I don't know the place at all so have no idea where else to look.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Cheshire / Does anybody know Luke Ruffley?
« on: Saturday 21 June 08 18:32 BST (UK)  »
I have been searching for this man's origins on and off for years.

He first appears in the 1841 census for Duckinfield living as a lodger.  By 1851 he is married and on this and all subsequent census returns until his death he consistantly gives his birthplace as Stockport and ages indicating a birth year around 1820.  He remained in Duckinfield for the rest of his life.

I know where and when he was married and buried but where did he begin?

World War One / Re: Italian Medal
« on: Saturday 21 June 08 18:05 BST (UK)  »
Why should Britain tremble when we have the seaside donkey  ;D

World War One / Re: Italian Medal
« on: Friday 20 June 08 23:47 BST (UK)  »
There are times, Annie, when what I say and what I mean to say are two different things - something to do with engaging the brain before trying to use it.   :-\  I knew about the pencils - I have a few postcards written in pencil.  What I meant to say was that the word PIAVE is written on both cards in exactly the same place and could even be the same handwriting which seemed to be too much of a coincidence so I wondered whether it had been added to all the cards before they were issued.

I wonder if he did know your Robert Stead - all I know about my grandfather's service record is what appears on these pages but if your Robert was having Christmas dinner in 1918 with B Company in Gambellara......

Phil - I've checked out that link to the service records and I think it could well be him.  When I finally absorb all of this I will follow up on it.


World War One / Re: Italian Medal
« on: Friday 20 June 08 18:15 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to Phil and Annie I am a lot wiser now than a few days ago but I still don't understand how the horse fits into the Machine Gun Corps.

Here is a photo of the man himself (if I can figure out how to do it) which, it says, was taken in Gambellara, N. Italy 1918 and he still has that horse!

World War One / Re: Italian Medal
« on: Thursday 19 June 08 22:56 BST (UK)  »
OK, so I'm probably approaching this military research backwards.  The truth is I hadn't even thought of it until I discovered Rootschat a few weeks ago and wondered about the Italian medal.  So I have never even seen a medal card, Phil, or indeed know what one is!

I've looked at the link to the other Christmas cards - I only have 1917 and 1918.  The interesting thing is that the reverse of the 1918 card already posted has PIAVE hand-written under Assiago Plateau and so does mine.  It's written in pencil.  I wonder if they all do.

As to grandfather's identity - his name was Robert Potts Redford and he received his (temporary) commission as a 2nd lieutenant on 7th April 1915 - I have the original document.  He would have been 23 at the time.  I know he was in the Sherwood Foresters because he  called his house Sherwood.  As a child I remember asking why and that was his explanation.  I never heard him talk much of the war but then I was only 18 when he died and probably wasn't interested enough to ask.  He also served in WW11 - RAF that time.


World War One / Re: Italian Medal
« on: Thursday 19 June 08 20:02 BST (UK)  »
So much information from one medal!  You have inspired me to read up on the battle and also to return to "the box" with all the momentos in.  Sure enough, if you put all the pieces together with a little donated knowledge it makes more sense.

The Christmas card from 1918 reads "Xmas Greetings from the 7th Division 1918 Italy". So that fits.  The Christmas dinner menu card for the same year tells me that he was with B Company, 7th Battalion Machine Gun Corps.

What I still can't figure is how the Sherwood Foresters, whose officers were on horseback, fitted in with machine guns.  I know from photographs that my grandfather had his horse with him - must have been very well trained horses!

Thanks again for all the information.


World War One / Re: Italian Medal
« on: Thursday 19 June 08 00:24 BST (UK)  »
Certainly is - minus the safety pin!

Thanks Annie


World War One / Re: Italian Medal
« on: Wednesday 18 June 08 23:48 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Phil.

I have never heard of this battle - must do research.


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