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Australia / Re: Rookwood
« on: Saturday 23 June 18 06:03 BST (UK)  »
Where most of my ancestors are buried - NSW, Vic and Qld - (but not Rookwood) - there are often 2 people in each single width grave, often 2 adults. Presumably both a cost saving & a space saving.

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The Common Room / Re: ANCESTRY baptisms not showing full info
« on: Friday 22 June 18 12:54 BST (UK)  »
I have found virtually every search on ancestry is returning zero or few results, unless I go to a specific data base search.

Was wondering if it was me - then I found this thread.

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Australia / Re: BARTLETT, Clifford
« on: Monday 18 June 18 14:11 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Sue for your polite explanation of the posting rules.

To avoid further repeats of rules - I have sent fmlindsay a PM with information, (readily and easily available online, google is our friend). Hope it helps the search.

WW


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Australia / Re: BARTLETT, Clifford
« on: Monday 18 June 18 07:09 BST (UK)  »
Their ashes are together - Fawkner Memorial Park

http://www.gmct.com.au/deceased-search/

Clifford died 10 Nov 1999

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Australia / Re: Pemberton 1849, Crew List.
« on: Thursday 07 June 18 13:29 BST (UK)  »
The NSW records can be found here

http://marinersandships.com.au/1849/05/4905.htm

Unfortunately no mention of the Pemberton in 1849 - and the 1849 lists seem to omit the crew names - other than the Captain. A rough check suggests crew names were included from 1854.


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Australia / Re: NSW Birth Records 1860-1863, Catherine Wilson & Bridget Wilson
« on: Friday 25 May 18 14:22 BST (UK)  »
With regard to the spelling of Winifred's name - it could simply be the different accents of the informant to the births and the registrar recording the information. Many people were illiterate in those times and if the informant came from a different part of the world/or of the UK than the registrar, the latter would make a "best guess" as to the spelling of a name.

At the time, most births were registered in person & it could just have been at the time of the daughter's births the family was a distance away from the registrar or they had more important things to do than worry about registration. Many families still considered baptism a valid alternative to civil registration, so having the children baptised - albeit with Bridget somewhat late - may have been considered sufficient.

I have one family in NSW where the 1st child was registered with the birth date of the second & the second was never registered. This was in the early 1860s. Probably confusion between the father and the registrar or simply the father hiding the forgotten/omitted registration of the first child.


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Australia / Re: Illegal immigrant 1838 Ann Collins
« on: Wednesday 09 May 18 12:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dundee and JM,

The "illegal immigrant" label was something of a joke, obviously a poor one if nobody got it.
...... 

This situation was addressed some years later by the Colonial Secretary writing to Ireland saying he had become aware that there were unlisted children on the ship and asking for details of their names and ages.   Every child seems to have been given the birth date of 25 December in whatever was the closest year to their age.   Rafferty's rules really did seem to apply.

Andcarred


It read well  :)  I had a distant ancestor who was convicted at the old Bailey. She came on board with two children. They were named on the shipping list - perhaps the English were more particular than the Irish. They had a slightly french sounding surname & a few years ago I found an early 20th century descendant proclaiming he came from French Aristocracy. Lots of inventive ways to lose the convict ancestry in my family  ;D

Giving the children the same birth date sounds rather like how horses are treated - somewhat sad that this was considered a valid option.

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Australia / Re: Old burial records for NSW
« on: Wednesday 09 May 18 12:29 BST (UK)  »
I came here thinking this was a site to exchange information we have gleaned over the years - responding to page long posts is not part of the deal.

I'm sure the OP is happy to check sources and details as she can. Might even try going to the source being the Church I mentioned.
 
 


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Australia / Re: Old burial records for NSW
« on: Tuesday 08 May 18 15:44 BST (UK)  »
Whoops, just read your latest JM.
Bit slow here  ::) of course I should double check the source document  :-[
How do I go about ordering the official transcription? 
Considering the year question the month and day of burial may be the best evidence to decide whether the year was misread as 1836.
Marlene  :)

Where are you in Australia? Most state libraries, together with many local libraries in NSW had copies of the early church records on microfilm. They are also available at the NSW archives. Quite some time since I checked them, where they can be found may have changed.

The code on the index provides the link to the location of the record. If the year is wrong you should be able to scroll through the records searching for your lady. They are grouped by parish.

From the AVRI (LDS) the church for the burial is given as Sydney, St Marys Roman Catholic.


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