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Dublin / Re: Lookup please. Great grandfather Davis
« on: Monday 31 August 09 21:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tracey,
The William Davis listed on the 1911 Census living in Summerhill is my Grandfathers brother.  His parents are also listed living at 157.2  Britain Street, Rotunda.  If this is your William, he is the second son of William Davis and Mary Walsh.  I have their 1901 Census Return - they were living at 9 Grenville St. and William is listed on that Return age 11.
My Mother who is in her eighties remembers John but can't remember what happened to William.  My grandfather was married twice and my mother is the youngest child of the second marriage.  She also remembers that John was married twice .  Wlliam's mother Mary died in 1943 at 13 Mountjoy St.  I have not found his fathers date of death.
There also other children on the 1901 Return - Elizabeth, Hanora, Rose and Mary Jane.  On the 1911 there is another child Annie.

 Hi Beach,

 Thanks for the info, sounds to me like it's the same William. Have PM'd you.

 Kind Regards,
   Tracey

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Dublin / Re: Bovenizer/McDonald. Look up please.
« on: Monday 31 August 09 21:27 BST (UK)  »
If you go to civil registration index site put in 'Bovenizer' as surname (nothing else) then click 'search', then at top of page select 'place' and check the box for 'Dublin' and you can bring up only the ones in Dublin area which should cut down on the records you have to look through for now.

  Hi aghadowey,

 Thanks for your help again.
 Can't access the Civil registration site though as my PC doesn't support Flashplayer. Am able to access www.familysearch.org but can't find any Dublin Bovenizers.
 Sorry to be a numpty, is there any other way I can find Dublin Bovenizers??

 Thanks,
  Tracey

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Dublin / Re: Bovenizer/McDonald. Look up please.
« on: Sunday 30 August 09 16:51 BST (UK)  »
Next step then is to search for other records. I'm guessing that Bovenizer isn't a common surname so check index to civil registrations and make a note of all the ones to find- later those might all fit into your family-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
Also have a look at LDS site- search 'Bovenizer' 'Ireland' and go through those results- many seem to be Co. Limerick but there are Dublin ones as well.
www.familysearch.org ('recent' ones are very unlikely to be listed)

 Thanks so much for your help with this, it's much appreciated.
Have been onto the site & searched through it but there's so many Bovenizers & I'm getting a bit confused. Will go back into it another day when I'm feeling a bit fresher, I'm sure I'll find who I'm looking for.

 Tracey

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Dublin / Re: Bovenizer/McDonald. Look up please.
« on: Sunday 30 August 09 15:40 BST (UK)  »
Have you tried searching for any of the family in the 1911 census yet?- it's online and free:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search

 Have found the name Bovenizer in Rathmines Avenue in the 1911 census.
 There's a Henry aged 45, Annie 46, Mary Elizabeth 19, Susan 16, Robert 14, Annie 9, Henry 7. There's also a Maryanne James 52.

 

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Dublin / Re: Lookup please. Great grandfather Davis
« on: Sunday 30 August 09 15:35 BST (UK)  »
found a possible marriage for William (snr) and Annie on the familysearch index (not that many William Davis entries to check but 40 pages of Annie & Annes..) :

 Name: William Davis
 Registration district:  Dublin North
 qtr and year:   Apr - Jun 1909
 Volume: 2  / Page: 502

 Name: Annie Murray
 Registration district: Dublin North
 qtr / year: Apr - Jun 1909
 vol.: 2 / Page: 502

I dont see any William Davis marriages in 1908.. there is another possibility is Dublin South in 1907 which I will try to cross match.

and a match for the birth of Margaret :

 Name: Margaret Davis
 Reg. district: Dublin North
 quarter and year: Jan - Mar 1911
 Volume: 2 / Page: 488




Shane

 Hi Shane,

 Thanks for all your help, it really is much appreciated. As I said before, the 1911 census shows William & Annie as married for 3 years but they could've gotten married anywhere really. If her family are from Tipperary as my family seem to think, they could've gotten married there. Equally though, they could've gotten married in Queens Town which appears on the 1911 census as where she's from.

 Thanks again,
  Tracey

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Dublin / Bovenizer/McDonald. Look up please.
« on: Sunday 30 August 09 15:28 BST (UK)  »
 I'm getting great help in the search for mr G Grandad Davis, much appreciated.
 Mums asked if I can try to find out a bit about her side of the family now. Again, almost nothing to go on but worth a try.

 My gran was Annie Jordan nee McDonald. She married William Jordan in 1931.She would've been 96 on the 17th August this year.
 Her mum was Annie Bovenizer & she married James McDonald.Her mum was also called Annie but don't have any other info on her etc.
 Annie & James McDonlad lived in Cardiff Cottage Finglas when my gran was born.
 I know it's like looking for a needle in a haystack but I know if anyone can find them for me, you lot can.

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Dublin / Re: Lookup please. Great grandfather Davis
« on: Sunday 30 August 09 14:25 BST (UK)  »
  Just got off the phone after speaking to dad. They've had a conflab with the info I gave them so far & here's what they think.

 1939 census, 50 Mountjoy Sq.

 William & Mary Davis. Nee O'Donnell
 Henry & Nora O'Donnell. Henry is Marys brother.
 Edward & Ellen O'Donnell.
 Norah & Peter Ryder
 Isaac? & James Kenny?
 Rosanna Mooney
 Mary & Thomas Keane
 James Kealey
 Josephine & George Kavanagh

 1911 Census   Summerhill
 
 William & Annie Davis   Dads nanny & grandad we think.
 Mary Bridget aged 2 & Margret aged 0.  Nora's 2 older sisters.
 John aged 20, Williams brother.

 Nora, dads mum; Williams daughter had 3 sisters & 1 brother. 1 sister married a King from Clontarf. The Kings had property in Mountjoy Square & Lower Gardiner Street.

 Julia O'Donnell married Frank Fitzgerald who worked for Brookes Thomas in Foley Street. They lived in the Caretakers cottage there.


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Dublin / Re: Lookup please. Great grandfather Davis
« on: Sunday 30 August 09 12:42 BST (UK)  »
Were any of the children born in Ireland? if so you can search for birth registration in civil index and then order the birth certificate which will list mother's full name so that you can track down the record of the marriage.
Shane gave the links earlier in this thread but will include them here as well-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable
www.groireland.ie


 I think but can't be sure that Nora was born in Ireland. She died in 1978 aged 65 & was my gran (dad's mum). I've got conflicting info though. The 1911 census shows William living in Summerhill & married to Annie. He was 22 & she was 21.
 She's listed as coming from James Town?? Is that in Tipperary? Reason I ask is that my uncle say's that Mary is from Tipperary & was a similar age to William. Maybe she's known as Mary to the family but is actually Annie by birth?? Is this possible do you think??

 Tracey

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Dublin / Re: Lookup please. Great grandfather Davis
« on: Sunday 30 August 09 12:05 BST (UK)  »
are there any clues as to when William and Mary may have been married ?

At the moment I am assuming that the could have been married anytime between 1907 and 1939 - i.e. from William being aged 18 to the electoral register details that Dara listed.  There are quite a few possible William Davis marriages listed in the time .. anything that would narrow down the search could help.

one thing to note ... the British Army, could not have been based at Beggars Bush (or anywhere else in Ireland) anytime after 1922



Shane

 Hi Shane,
  Thanks for getting back to me. No idea when William & Mary got married but think it was after 1911 as he was living with a brother in Summerhill on the 1911 census. He was 22 then.
 In the 1939 census he was listed as married to Mary & living at 50 Mountjoy Square then.
 I know that Beggars Bush closed down in 1922 so wonder what happened to William then. Where else would he have been based? I know he went to India with the British Army in 1939 so wonder what happened after Beggars Bush.

 

 Just re-checked the 1911 census. Beginning to think I might have some wrong info somewhere.
 William is listed as being married to Annie for 3 years here with 2 children aged 2 & 0. That means they were married in 1908.His brother John lives with them at 21.3 Summerhill. Looks like Annie was from James County??
 When did he marry Mary then?? And what happened to Annie & the children if this is the same William Davis I'm looking for??

 Tracey

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