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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Borden or Iwade Parish Chest
« on: Sunday 01 August 10 22:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue,

It has been a while since I researched this family so there may be further information available now.  I am in Canada so thie information I have has been pretty much online.

Effield Hart ATTWATER was the daughter of Richard Marshall and Mary Ann Attwater (Maiden name unknown)  If you purchase her birth certificate, it will give you her mother's maiden name.

Sept 1886, Milton, 2a 892.

Effield lived in Hoo during the 1891 & 1901 census.  She married Harry Helman on May 25, 1901 at St Mary Chatham, Kent.  The image is on the City Arc website.

She had two children that I know of, Cressy and Arnold.  This information was given to me by a family member who has now passed.  (he was her nephew)  I have not searched any further on the children.

Effield had two brother's - Richard and Ernest.  Richard died in WW1 on the HMS Cressy.  A name that Effield gave her daughter.  Ernest married May Eveline Law and went on to have 13 children.

Are you able to give me any further information on you grandmother?  Was she Cressy or was there another daughter?


Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Borden or Iwade Parish Chest
« on: Sunday 01 August 10 21:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue,

Thanks for you interest in the Attwater family.  Yes, Effield is in my family tree.  What information do you already know and I can fill you in on what I do know.  Where are you located?


Kent Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1891 lookup please
« on: Sunday 13 December 09 12:48 GMT (UK)  »
Here is the suspected entry?

RG12; Piece: 4059; Folio 20; Page 34

11 Back Frederick Street, Hartlepool, Durham, England

William Green    Head, Married, 33, Shipyard Labourer, N.K., Kent 
Mary Ann Green    Wife, Married , 31, Hartlepool, Durham
Isabella Green    Daur, Single, 10, Hartlepool, Durham, Idiot
Martha Green    Daur, Single, 7, Scholar, Hartlepool, Durham
William H Green    Son, Single, 5, Scholar, Hartlepool, Durham
Charles Green    Son, Single, 3, Hartlepool, Durham
James Green    Son, Single, 2, Hartlepool, Durham

Hope that helps. 

Kent Completed Lookup Requests / Re: FENTON - Looking for First Name or Marriage
« on: Sunday 14 December 08 13:57 GMT (UK)  »

Wow, you are such a credit to this hobby!   :-*  This is the only clue to a father that has been found.  I can't Thank You enough.


Canada Lookup Request / Re: Home Child GILBERT MUMFORD
« on: Monday 24 November 08 23:06 GMT (UK)  »
A Gilbert Mumford  on the St. George's Square WW1 memorial in Oakville Ontario:

Hi Ali,

If you keep track of this monument, I can take a picture for you when you find out that the names have been added to the monument.  I don't live too far from this location and would be happy to do this for you.  Hopefully it will be in the Spring as we are now getting sleet and snow here.


Canada Lookup Request / Re: Home Child GILBERT MUMFORD
« on: Saturday 01 November 08 12:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ali,

I have found the location of the land that Gilbert lived on.  The website is:

If you do a search for Gilbert, you will find his two lots of land.

3134750  Mumford, Gilbert SW  9  3  30  W3 
3139397  Mumford, Gilbert SE  9  3  30  W3

I would contact the Saskatchewan library to see if they could give you any further information about Gilbert his land or perhaps family information.  Go to this website to see your contact options:

Your other option would be to contact the Saskatchewan Genealogy Society at:   

As for the war records, when I sent away for my grandfathers, it cost me about $20.00.  I sent them a cheque for $50.00 and they sent me back the remainder when the search was complete.  Options have changed since I sent my enquiry away and I see they now have an online secure option to pay for the records.  This would be your best option with you living in Australia.

I hope that helps,


Canada Lookup Request / Re: Henry Baldwin marriage
« on: Wednesday 22 October 08 01:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi Gazza,

I would imagine that Henry married in 1850 or earlier based on the childrens births.  That would mean his immigration took place before this time.  Sorry to say that records are not available for that time period that I have access to.  Perhaps you should post a message about possible immigration at that time period and some one with more experience in that time frame may be able to answer you.  Good luck.   ;)


Canada Lookup Request / Re: Henry Baldwin marriage
« on: Tuesday 21 October 08 00:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi Gazza,

I took a look for you to see where you could get some help in Michigan.  Try this web site:

Here's some more data for you I got off the above site:


Baldwin, Emma   April 17, 1860 – Sept. 10, 1943  (Sawden)
Baldwin, Thomas  Jan. 13, 1854 – Sept. 22, 1927
Baldwin, Roy  1887 – 1910 (11/15/1887 – 9/29/1910  Thomas & Emma Sawden)
Baldwin, Lewis E.  1880 - 1881
Rose Anderson's Record Books:

BALDWIN, Edward J.
Date of birth: 30 June 1867 Color: White Sex: Male
Born: S. Bay City, Michigan Single Occupation: Shoemaker
Date of death: 4 October 1901
Age: 34 years 3 months 4 days
Buried: Oak Ridge Cemetery, Bay City, Michigan
Father: Henry Baldwin Born: England
Mother: Jane M. Daniel Born: Canada

Date of birth: 15 November 1887 Place: Michigan Color: White
Sex: Male Occupation: Clerk  Married
Date of death: 29 September 1910 Cause: Typhoid Fever & Pneumonia
Buried: Pine Grove Cemetery, Williams Township Lot #16 1 October 1910
Father: Thomas Baldwin Born: January 1855 in Canada
Mother: Emma Sawden Born: April 1862 in Toronto, Canada

Date of birth: 13 January 1854 Birthplace: Canada
Color: White Sex: Male
Date of death: 22 September 1927 Place: Williams Township|
Buried: Pine Grove Cemetery, Williams Township Lot # 16
Wife: Emma Sawden Born: 1860-Died: 1943
Father: Henry Baldwin Born: England
Mother: Margaret James Born: England

Baldwin, William
Date of birth: 8 May 1856  Birthplace:  Lindsay, Ontario Canada
Color: White  Sex: Male  Widower  Occupation:  Carpenter
Date of death: 27 April 1940  Williams Township
Age:  83 years 11 months 19 days Cause of death: Cerebral Hemorrhage
Buried: Oak ridge Cemetery, Bay City, Michigan 30 April 1940
Wife: Alice
Father: Henry Baldwin  Born: England
Mother: June McDaniel  Born: Ireland

Baldwin, Lewis E.
Date of birth; 1880  (Pine Grove Sexton’s Record)
Color: White  Sex: Male
Date of death: 1881
Buried: Pine Grove Cemetery, Williams Township, Bay County, Michigan
Lot #16

Baldwin, Emma
Date of birth; 17 April 1860  Birthplace Toronto, Canada
Color: White Sex: Female widow Housewife
Husband: Thomas Baldwin
Date of death; 10 September 1943 Bay County, Michigan
Age: 83 years 4 months 23 days
Buried: Pine Grove Cemetery, Williams Township, Bay County, Michigan
Lot #16
Father Lewis Sawden  Born: England
Mother: Martha Williamson  Born: England
Informer: Mrs. Oscar Mieselbach  Bay City, Michigan

I don't know if their all yours but worth looking at.  It looks like the name of the mother is Jane M. Daniel or June McDaniel?  Gives you a clue anyway.

Hope that helps,


Canada Lookup Request / Re: Henry Baldwin marriage
« on: Tuesday 21 October 08 00:26 BST (UK)  »
All the children were born in Canada except for Edward

Correction:  In the 1870 census it states that Maria was born in Michigan.

Would there have been some kind of ships passenger list in those times?
Were there the equivalent of parish records that might show their marriage?

From what I can see in the 1870 & 1880 census, the family lived in English Canada.  This would probably mean Ontario but that is only a guess.  Ontario was considered "Upper Canada" and Quebec was "Lower Canada".  Quebec being French speaking and would be listed as Canada-French in the census.  This does not mean that they didn't live in the maritimes or the western provinces.

Although Ontario is a guess, it is just across the border from Michigan.  This would not require a ship if your question about passenger lists was for this time period.

I tried to trace the children and found a few Baldwins still living in Williams, Bay, Michigan.  If they are decendants of Henry and Jane, the immigration year was listed as 1863.  This somewhat fits that Maria and Edward were born in Michigan.

As for the parish registers, you first need to find out where they lived in Canada.  It is a very large country and you are looking for a needle in a haystack I'm afraid.  Your best move next would be to contact someone in Michigan that may be able to find some data for you in the archives about Henry and Jane.

I hope that helps in some way,


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