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Travelling People / Re: The WW2 Gestapo 'List'?
« on: Wednesday 06 February 19 17:56 GMT (UK)  »
"We touched on the notorious List of people the nazi gestapo had compiled."

This was the "Sonderfahndungsliste G.B" ('Special Search List GB'). I came across this when researching how my grandparents fled to England in 1938, and wrote about it on my website:
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"The "Special Search List GB" [...] was the Nazis' (SS, SD, Abwehr ?) list of "Enemies of the State". In the event of an invasion of Britain, special teams would be sent out to round up anyone on the list.
(Here is another name from the list, someone who also came from Vienna ...
  F114 Freud, Sigmund, Dr., Jude, 6.5.56 Freiburg (Mähren), London, RSHA II B5.)
The list compilers don't seem to have noticed, that Freud had already died… in 1939 ! 
A web-search (here in Germany) for 'Special Search List GB' gives me 451 entries.
Searching for "Sonderfahndungsliste G.B" gets me over 18.000 hits !
This is not the list you are looking for though, but I haven't seen any mentions of other lists.

For anybody interested, the list is described in detail here:
https://amgathering.org/2015/09/12171/weizmann-churchill-and-british-schindler-were-on-nazi-hit-list/
and in the article, it says a translation of the complete list is available here:
https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/hitlers-black-book

Steve, sorry I can't help more.
Do you know if this other list had an official name (german or english) ?

Good luck,
Bob

 

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The Common Room / Re: Rant - FreeCen changes
« on: Friday 21 December 18 08:12 GMT (UK)  »
"so, when the program screen said "type in 4 digits", I'd type 3 digits, then I'd try 5 digits, then some letters etc etc"

... a variation of that is sometimes known as the "monkey test" : what does the program do, if a monkey just presses random keys and one them is "enter" !!!!
(off-topic, but these days you could rename it "politician test" : just replace 'monkey' in the above defintion with 'politician' !)

Bob
(also an IT veteran - started programming with punch cards and tapes)

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Technical Help / Re: Book creation programs
« on: Saturday 01 December 18 08:34 GMT (UK)  »
There are a lot of interesting ideas, tips and suggestions here.
So it doesn't get 'lost', I've added this topic to the list :)

There are several topics on RootsChat about how to write a family chronicle.

Some of the topics are collected here:
RootsChat Topics: Organising and Presenting your Family History
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=158638.0

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     New topic(s) added: (see above)

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Technical Help / Re: Book creation programs
« on: Thursday 29 November 18 08:44 GMT (UK)  »
There are several topics on RootsChat about how to write a family chronicle.

Some of the topics are collected here:
RootsChat Topics: Organising and Presenting your Family History
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=158638.0

In ths topic,
Topic: Writing a book?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=777477.0
i mentioned a useful internet article about styles of writing
I once saw an interesting article about writing a family history, but unfortunately the web-link doesn't work any more.

Here is a short summary.

The author (Margaret Anne Storey) listed 5 ways of writing a book:
  • 1. Standard Data:
    Example: "William Smith was born in 1652 in Little Dribbling" - Absolute Minimum => BORING !!!

  • 2. Expanded:
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    you will need to do a lot of research into your ancestor’s occupation, the village he lives in, his neighbours, the climate etc. It is probably the most acceptable as far as what most people expect a family history to be.
    "The old stone church sat high on the hill. The gravestones all around showed evidence of it's past, and of that of the villagers who had once lived in Little Dribbling"

  • 3. Very expanded:  like 2. plus a bit of imagination !
    Example: The Smith family approached the old church, high on the hill. The baby, wrapped in an old christening dress, lay cradled in her mother's arms. It was 1652.

  • 4. From the author's point of view: (as if you were there)
    "I slowly climbed the hill, to the old stone church. The gravestone nearby told me a tale of a byegone age, that of my ancestors".

  • 5. Fiction + Fact = Faction: Facts + Imagination in the form of a novel. This is probably the most difficult: you are leaving the path of the proven facts and adding a lot of imagination and speculation.
    - will the relatives like this ?
    - more important: will it be fun for you ?


As a "technician" I can write reports fairly easily but I find it hard to write about non-technical subjects.  My website/family chronicle is written mainly in style 1 - standard data - with occaisional excursions into style 4 - "I .." where I also include information about the search itself for information. Now and again I'll add some of my speculations as well (style 5)

A useful help here (for style 3-5) are "biographies as novels". The authors will often take known utterances of 'public' people (from diaries, letters, and other publications) and weave them into (fictitious) dialogues. i.e. they did actually say this, but in another setting ! If you have diaries, letters and other documents of your ancesters, you could build them into your narritive here.

Martin is definitely doing style number 5, but as i also said there,
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- will the relatives like this ?
- more important: will it be fun for you ?
Bob

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Europe / Re: Need Help Translating Possibly German Shorthand
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 15:09 BST (UK)  »
Looks like Peonie is right !

Animei from the german forum has confirmed this :)
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es ist deutsche Kurzschrift.
Das ist der Text (die "gute Marie" steht in dem Steno-Text allerdings nicht):
She added an image of the quote, which I am including here.

regards,
Bob

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Europe / Re: Need Help Translating Possibly German Shorthand
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 08:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi dakrause

I have added a link to your  topic to a german family history forum.

http://forum.genealogy.net/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=72623

There are several members there, who are also members of RootsChat.
If anybody there can help, they may answer here directly or in the german forum.
I'll copy any replies in the german forum here for you (and for others who are now curious and are watching this topic :) ).

regards,
Bob

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