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Travelling People / Re: tin smith/tin smiths labourer
« on: Friday 13 November 09 00:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Cathay- Tinsmith or Tinsmith Labourer  is a definite Traveller occupation all over - Roser

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Travelling People / Re: Price family in Barry Wales
« on: Monday 09 November 09 03:18 GMT (UK)  »
Don't know if this is connected but it's a bit of a coincidence-- If you like to contact me through my Web Page ,I have several PRICE entries far to much for here.- Roser

CRADDOCK Phoebe 1908 13 Sep George & Keziah (Hawker) (Baptised) Binsted, Hampshire, (Ref Gypsies Passing Through)

PRICE Caradoc born abt 1871 Bagillt, Flintshire, Wales married Eleanor E born Abt 1871, Poulton Cum Seacombe, issue, Robert J born Abt 1896, Seacombe Cheshire, England Annie G born Abt 1898 Seacombe Cheshire, England , Winifred L. born Abt 1901 Poulton Seacombe, England. ( Family of Civil Parish: Poulton Cum Seacombe ,Ecclesiastical parish: Wallasey St Hilary , County/Island: Cheshire, Country: England (1901 Census)
My Web Site is http://avonvalleycollection.bravehost.com/

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Travelling People / Re: Anyone come across Revill please?
« on: Monday 09 November 09 02:54 GMT (UK)  »
Some more Chrissie- Disregard John HEAP he is not Romany.

HEAPS George (No 1435) born 1820. Died 14.12.1865 in Western Australia. Occupation unmarried Loom Fitter, convicted for life. Arrived in Western Australia per the vessel “William Jardine”1.8.1852. Ticket of Leave 7.12.1854, Conditional Pardon 27.2.1863 (See Convicts in .Western Australia. & Bicentennial Dictionary of .Western Australia.n.- Erickson & O’Mara) ( & Jan James Collection)

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Travelling People / Re: Anyone come across Revill please?
« on: Monday 09 November 09 02:45 GMT (UK)  »
Some more for you Chrissie- plus two more convicts to Western Australia. I haven't checked the other States for either name.
 
HEAPS 1861Census)
HEAP(S) 1775-1850 (Derbyshire) (See Robert Dawson ARITF)

HEAPES Ellinn  buried 3rd June 1582 Burial: traveller (Heckington Linc,
HEAPS Frederick 1850 24 Feb Frederick and Priscilla Chair Bottomer New Brampton DUR
HEAPS Isiah 39 Besom maker Snelson Dby, Hannah Heaps 37 Snelson Dby, Cornelius Heaps 15 Adie Yorks, Unellie Heaps 18 Swinton Yorks, George H Heaps 6 Crick Dby, Mary Heaps 10months Attercliffe Yks Not in house - Whitebrick Wison Road, Barlborough Notts 1861Census)
HEAPS Maria 1850 10 Mar James and Susanna (Chair Maker) New Brampton DUR
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HEAP John (No9191) born 1834 died 8.1.1883 hanged himself in Perth Western Australian Prison- Married in England, occupation Tailor, semi litterate, Pritestant, Convicted in Dorchester 22.7.1865, shoot with intent, sentenced 15 years. Arrived Western Australia per the vessell "Corona"22.12.1866. Tickett of Leave 7.6.1873, Certified Free 30.6.1881 Perth. Worked in Swan,  Fremantle, Williams, York, Toodyay & Victoria Plains Districts as a general servant, labourer, tailor, cook, shepherd, orderly. Married 1st Rebecca, 2nd Mary DUTTON nee Sullivan (widow of Joseph DUTTON) ( ??? Gypsy) (See Convicts in .Western Australia. & Bicentennial Dictionary of .Western Australia.n.- Erickson & O’Mara) ( & Jan James Collection)

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Travelling People / Re: Anyone come across Revill please?
« on: Monday 09 November 09 02:19 GMT (UK)  »
`Jane maybe one of your family also- The entry for William may explain their dissapearence in 1851 - Roser

REVELL Jane FC 3 Oct 1861/2? charged with vagrancy with Emma SHELLEY (Scource-Gypsy, Traveller And Itinerant References From Local (Folkestone Kent Area) Newspapers)( Jan JAMES Collection)

REVELL William (No378) born Abt 1831 an unmarried Carter. Protestent. Convicted at Newington in 1849 of felony lrceny from the person. Sentenced to 7 years. Arrived Swan River Clony Western Australia per the vessel “Mermaid” 7.5.1851 . Ticket of Leave 22.10.1851, Conditional Pardon 25.8.1855.  (Description   5' 6"  ,Hair light, Eyes  grey, Visage  long, Complexion fresh Distinguishing Marks None ( No further information on him in Western Australia possibly left the Colony when his sentence expired) (Dictionary of Western Australians Vol '(Convict) (Erickson & OMara)  & Jan James Collection) 

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Travelling People / Re: Traveller a Gypsy?
« on: Sunday 08 November 09 11:16 GMT (UK)  »
I have these people listed in my research on Romany's in England- Edmund STELLE(E) was a convict- Roser

STEAL 1714 (Gypsies Passing Through), STEEL(E) 1743-Present (int) (Derbyshire,Yorkshire) (See Robert Dawson ARITF),
STEAL Mary 1714 16 Jan Wife of John Stranger Dorking, - (Burial Surrey, Ref Gypsies Passing Through)
STEAL Mary 1714 27 July Daughter of a traveller  Dorking, - (Burial Surrey, Ref Gypsies Passing Through)
STEEL Elizabeth 1713 10 May Edward (Traveller)  , Reigate, Surrey (Gypsies Passing Through)
STEEL Emma 1870 16 Jan William & Amy (General Dealer)  , St John, Croydon, Surrey (Gypsies Passing Through)
STEEL Flora P 34 Wife Rochampton, Surrey 1 Gloucester Road, and Littlehampton
STEEL John 1706 14 Feb John (Traveller)  , Reigate, Surrey (Gypsies Passing Through)
STEEL John 40 Lodger Hawker London, Surrey 61-62 Pimlico Robin Hood, Brighton RG10/1084/F? CD4 RG10_1084.pdf p.151
STEEL William 1846 26 Sep Thomas & Sarah (Hawker) , St Lawrence, Reading Berkshire (Gypsies Passing Through)
STEEL William 39 Head Sailor Sea Stedham, Sussex 1 Gloucester Road, and Littlehampton RG13/0962/~ F6
STEELE Diane(Ref Journal of the Romany and Traveller Family History Society)
STEELE Henry 40 Son Fish Hawker West Brighton, - No 42 Bread Street, St. Peter RG12/0812/F?
STEELE Richard 48 Lodger Agricultural Labourer Cowfold, Sussex Capsale, Horsham
STEELE Violet 1893 26 Mar Henry & Lydia (A Traveller)  , Cheam Common, Surrey (Gypsies Passing Through)
STEELE,Elizabeth dau.of John & Ann STEELE, a traveller, born 19 Oct bap. 27 Oct 1780 (Of Reigate) ,) (Gypsies in the Surrey Poor Law Records Gypsies Passing Through)

STEEL(E), Edmund: b ~1789; '3 Legges Cross' HAMPSHIRE; m ENG with children, married 1837 TASMANIA with children; to VICTORIA Australia 1841; died ?1865
VICTORIA EBRK004 ( Ref- Swing Rioters to Van Diemen’s Land (now Tasmania), compiled by Geoffrey Sharman)



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Travelling People / Re: Traveller a Gypsy?
« on: Sunday 08 November 09 01:55 GMT (UK)  »
My findings are- One of the terms given to "Gypsies" was more commonly "Tinker" in Ireland and Commercial Travellers or travelling Salesmen as Travellers. A safe bet is if the person involved passes 5 points ( ie) name, description, occupation, address and crime (if appropriate) it is a fair bet that they are Romany. Not saying that your family were not. What is the surname- Roser

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Travelling People / Re: Boswell
« on: Thursday 05 November 09 01:41 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Paul- Ancestors or Descendants. If it is descendants contact me off line on my Web Page. There is too much to pate here- It is Free-Roser
My Web Site is http://avonvalleycollection.bravehost.com/

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Travelling People / Re: The Redworth Family
« on: Wednesday 04 November 09 02:13 GMT (UK)  »
Hello- Here is my Web Page. It is a free service and you can contact me direct through there- Hope I can help. It is a work in progress- Do you know of any one transported in your family-Roser

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