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Australia / Re: still Searching for origins of MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« on: Friday 12 February 10 03:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

Re David's post Reply #27 from Wednesday 10 February ... Well found David ...   

I notice there's "Mrs R ...." (CC McN)  but no mention of "Mr ...." (Thomas Ransom) .... So, err ... Was the Royal Oak Inn (Sorrell Inn) etc a "hut" or was it a larger establishment .... (and thus who lived at the hut and who lived at the Royal Oak  ;D or were these both actually one and the same address . ....  I'm not from that district, so I don't know ...

And who was where on 24 October 1828 when McNeilly and servant were speared .... Where were Thomas Ransom or Catharine Christiana McNally in October 1828, where was young Thomas McNally ... was he ever speared  ....

I think that ALL the (possible, probable, likely etc) sightings on the three threads need to be put into a chronological order, in a couple of instances, day by day even ... to make sure we are finding the jigsaw pieces for the right puzzles...    Then (I'm presuming)  Wiggy, who started the threads could have a better picture of this involved saga ....  and it could be "driven" by Wiggy ... I feel this thread is turning out to be another that will develop into very long thread ....  so much of what I have posted on these three threads, is readily available online at free to search sites...   ;), or in some of those good reference books that David regularly cites ....   It is quite a chore to have to check back through so many pages to confirm that the information being posted is not duplicating an earlier post ...  I try to be diligent with that task...   

Anyways,  at the moment, I'm trying to find where CC McN  was in Oct 1828 ... I thought she was signing attestment papers or giving witness in court re that Mrs Owens incident that vdlstories quoted back on thread 1 ....  I notice that no-one has posted any comments about Mrs Ransom and Mr Ransom having separate bedrooms in the Royal Oak .... would that be in the HUT  ;D ... 

I'd really like a list of things to chase up, rather than making my own "to do" list on this searching for McNally, Catharine Christiana...   ;D

Cheers,  JM



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Australia / Re: 1871 melbourne to sydney passenger lists
« on: Friday 12 February 10 01:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Debra,

Smith  ;D  hope it was not John and Mary ...

My John and Mary Smith arrived in NSW from Wellington NZ in 1881 .... and err ... his occupation "wood carter", Ag Lab, and labourer etc... If you suspect your Mr & Mrs Smith could have been involved in the work at Prospect Reservoir, or in 1890's lived in the Fairfield district, or in the 1900's lived in the Parramatta district, please let me know, as I have various "Smith" documents from those decades.  There were at least two Smith couples named John & Mary in that little community on the north eastern  side of the construction site in the 1880's  ;D

Cheers,  JM

23466
The Common Room / Re: LoneyBones Scavenger Hunt - Part 2...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« on: Thursday 11 February 10 15:05 GMT (UK)  »
Err....

There's something online on the National Archives of Australia ... it could be a clue, if perhaps that co-respondent, William Larson stayed with Elizabeth...

Its the arrival in OZ, of a William LARSON in 1908, ... and his nationality was Swedish (that does NOT mean he was born in Sweden, but it would be likely) and date of birth was  2 March 1881 ... no ship's name shown, BUT there's an arrival date (in OZ) of 30 September 1908... and he was first registered at Donald (all "aliens" had to register on arrival and many had to sit a written dictation test (to make sure they were not 'coloured aliens' ... don't ask ... it was also known as the White Australia Policy.   Anyways, that file at the archives, it would cost around $16.50 to have that record digitised, and there's NO reason to consider that just yet.

But, perhaps there's an outward passenger list for his voyage from "somewhere" to OZ, (probably took about 5 weeks under steam from say Southampton !) so from say July 1908 .... perhaps Elizabeth accompanied this person, perhaps he was a nephew of her co-respondent ... speculately as usual ... sorry

Search as a Guest, using keywords William Larson http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ResearcherScreen.asp there's only 13 indexed, and the "barcode" for this chap is 6565067

Cheers, JM


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The Common Room / Re: LoneyBones Scavenger Hunt - Part 2...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« on: Thursday 11 February 10 14:36 GMT (UK)  »
Errr.... I may have spoke too soon  ;D

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14121202 its the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper for 3 April 1897....  Agnes is seeking a divorce for he has deserted her for three years and upwards ... but the spelling for his surname is LARRSON, ... that's the bit that interests MOI  ;D

Wonder if we should be searching for LB's Elizabeth with possible surname of LaRRson .... ummm.... its after half one in the morning, and I'm actually at MOI inlaws for couple of days, sorting some stuffs for M i L ...

Hope the postman gets the A4 sized envelope from State Records to LB "in a timely manner" ...

Cheers,  JM

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The Common Room / Re: LoneyBones Scavenger Hunt - Part 2...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« on: Thursday 11 February 10 14:23 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there,

Ebch, I agree  ;D

I've even looked at the possibility that William Larson may have needed to divorce a presumed wife ...  Closest I've come in NSW is to just one index entry... applying for either a divorce or at least maintence ... perhaps seeking a judicial separation (all these are lumped together on one index on the NSW state records on line)

Its for 1897,  and from the names of the two parties, its not likely to yield up much (wrong first names, and a perhaps a generation later that William of 1880  ::) ) but its for a lass with a triple barrelled set of christian names ...

Agnes Clara Victoria LARSON v Ludwig Jeppa  (no co-respondent listed, which may be a clue to it being only for maintenance) ... not sure, but I would not consider spending any pennies on ordering that file  ;) until I knew more about either Agnes or Ludwig... however, perhaps LB may recognise these names  :o   ;D  ;D  ;)  ;)  ;)

Cheers,  JM

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Australia / Re: still Searching for origins of MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« on: Thursday 11 February 10 13:08 GMT (UK)  »
 ;D, David, 

You mentioned James McNally on the Cornwallis .... (edit to add, err...... isn't that the same voyage as Catherine Kearney  ;D  ;D who had a number of alias'  read on, )

I presume this would be him :

Re a James McNally on the Cornwallis (Marquis Cornwallis 1796, ) , ... there were two convicts surnamed McNally on that voyage.
James, who with former convictions was sentenced to 14 years transportation for cow stealing, trial at Trim Meath Co.

AND,

Maria McNally who was aged 22 on her arrival, ie born circa 1774.  She was tried at Dublin in 1795.  I've NOT found any indication that she had any children or a husband etc before she left Ireland.  An online site has her married in NSW in 1796, to a Thomas Moxon, and that she died in 1818 at Windsor.  I have NOT found any NSW BDM online index references to support that.  (I haven't even found Thomas Moxon)... edit to add ... is this actually Catherine Kearney  ;D

http://members.tip.net.au/~ppmay/convicts.htm ...  I have often found that site to be reliable, and in previous years I have contacted them and asked for further information about one or two of the names listed there, and met with prompt reply and references to check, and thus I have been able to continue researching my own Irish lines.   I note this because on the entry for James McNally,under Remarks it says " Left colony 1806 previous Irish charge & trial details available "
Cheers,

JM         

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Australia / Re: 1871 melbourne to sydney passenger lists
« on: Thursday 11 February 10 12:23 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there,

There's lots of names on the newspapers online site, and, perhaps your family's name is mentioned...  Here's the link, to the National Library of Australia's online newspaper's current beta site.   You can limit their search by date and/or by newspaper and/or by keyword etc. 

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

Fingers crossed you find them listed there. 

Cheers,  JM

23471
Australia / Re: Looking for Relatives of Richard Napoleon Wyombe Townsend REECE
« on: Thursday 11 February 10 11:09 GMT (UK)  »
Ellen Mather

Tried at York on 14  October 1839, sentence 7 years transportation , Larceny, before convicted of Felony. She was aged 24...
Arrived 23 March 1840 on the Surry/Surrey.   Not sighted any mention of her marital status, nor if any children came with her.

Noticing that there's an earlier trial for same name and same age, again at York ... sentence imprisonment... trial was 5 July 1839, for larceny,  so there may be two women of that name and age in York.   ;)

I'm not sure though that either of those lasses were married women .... perhaps they were, perhaps both trials refer to the one lass, perhaps that lass was your missing lass ....

Cheers,  JM

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Australia Lookups completed / Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« on: Thursday 11 February 10 10:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ann E,

If you check again on the CWGC site, you will notice his service number, note it down  ;).

Then go to the naa.gov.au website and search as a guest, use that service number.  It should bring up that specific serviceman's index.  If it has already been digitised, you can then read the records.  If it has not yet been digitised, you can order a copy online, (just follow their prompts) and depending on if the access has already been examined and "open", it should take only a couple of weeks.  If they have to examine (ie, it has not yet been examined) it could take up to around three months.  (this is based on my own experience, WW1, WW2,records for various of my forebears)  Alternatively, you can order a presentation folder of the records to be sent by snail mail, and request at that same time for the records NOT to be digitised.

Also, if you find that your chap's records are not yet digitised, perhaps you may consider asking his brother if it is OK with him to ask for the digitisation.  I asked my uncle for permission to have my late father's records digitised, and he willingly gave permission (he was very pleased that I thought to ask, and he has the presentation folder, while I have the digitised records).   

Those links again :
http://www.cwgc.org/
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx  (search as a guest)

Cheers,  JM

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