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Breconshire / Re: Davies of llywell
« on: Sunday 30 May 21 21:32 BST (UK)  »
The graveyard at St David's Church, Llywel is large and most people from Llywel and Trecastle and the outlying farms have been buried there for centuries. There is an ancient 'wake way' or 'coffin road' which comes down from the mountain opposite the church, where coffins of the deceased from outlying farms were carried down for burial in the churchyard.

There is another smaller church at Traenglas which I believe also has burials, and another at Cray.  There are also the chapels, too, where your ancestors could have been buried if they went to chapel. The Traenglas church is interesting because, according to local information, there was a falling-out between the local gentry and the vicar of Llywel, so the gentry removed their support from St David's, and went and built their own church at Traenglas!

Regards
GS

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Breconshire / Re: Davies of llywell
« on: Wednesday 26 May 21 21:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Julie
The problem with Trecastle is that the majority of families are Davieses.  For this reason the people who live there don't use surnames but are called by the name of their house or farm.  For example when I lived there I lived in Bear House so my family were known as The Bears. My friend who lived nearest to the public loos in the village had the misfortune to be given the surname Toilet Cottage. I love the humour - one guy was known as Dai Bungalow because it was said he had nothing upstairs. ;D
Tre Esgob is the Welsh version of Bishops Town so they are both the same place.  Tre Esgob is part of Trecastle, being the land on the western side of the Login Brook, which at one time was owned by the Bishop of St Davids.   The parish church, St David's, in at the hamlet of Llywel, about two miles west of Trecastle and separate from it.  My mother is buried there.
One other point is that 'Killybebill' is actually Cilybebyll which might help you to find it when searching.

I'll look out my book with notes relating to the Trecastle families and if I can find anything which might be useful for you, I'll let you know.

Regards
GS

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Breconshire / Re: Downey inquest lookup
« on: Saturday 01 May 21 23:14 BST (UK)  »
It does seem strange that we can't find details of the inquest because I'm sure it would have been a major story at the time.  I've tried looking for convictions too in the event that it was found to be murder but can't find anything in that respect either.  But as I said previously, somewhere in the back of my mind, some years ago, I am sure I came across a conviction of someone for a similar crime in this area, involving an attempted burglary and subsequent manslaughter.  Just wish I could remember, or if google could be kind to us.

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Breconshire / Re: Downey inquest lookup
« on: Saturday 01 May 21 18:55 BST (UK)  »
I've been trying to find Pantweddus on the map but as yet no such luck.*   The story of the death of the gamekeeper rings a bell for some reason.  Just wish I could remember where I read it originally. 

I've been looking through the newspapers on the National Library of Wales site, but I suppose you've been through those too.  There are plenty of reports of game-keepers being shot (accidentally or otherwise) but so far no report of your man has come to light.

Regards
GS

*PS: Ah yes, finally found it! *

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Breconshire / Re: Downey inquest lookup
« on: Saturday 01 May 21 07:38 BST (UK)  »
Mathew Downey was living in Llywel (aka Llywell) in the 1871 census in the parish of Ysclydach.  By coincidence this is the same parish  I lived in some years ago.  I'm still digging regarding the name of the property name.

Regards
GS

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Breconshire / Re: Downey inquest lookup
« on: Friday 30 April 21 22:02 BST (UK)  »
Not sure about that parish transcription.  From Genuki the parishes in the area:

"DEVYNNOCK, a parish in the hundred of Devynnock, in the county of Brecon, 7 miles S.W. of Brecknock. It is situated on the river Usk, and contains Ystradyelltey, Llanulid, Glyntawe, Llaniltid, Maescar, Glynn, and Senny. The great forest covers an area of 20,000 acres. The Roman road, Via Tulia, passed through the parish."

As you say, the spellings change a lot, often depending on whether the writer was Welsh or English.

I'm not sure about the name of his residence either.  I'll check on the old maps and see if there are any clues.

Regards
GS

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Breconshire / Re: Downey inquest lookup
« on: Friday 30 April 21 08:14 BST (UK)  »
Hello and welcome to Rootschat.  Could you give us some information regarding the incident and where it took place?  That would make the search a lot easier.

Many thanks
GS

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Suffolk / Re: Pearle family in hitcham suffork
« on: Tuesday 27 April 21 20:33 BST (UK)  »
The Pearle family moved between Rattlesden, Hitcham, Brettenham and Thorpe Morieux.  My earliest ancestors of the Pearle line are John Pearle (b. Rattlesden 1541) and his wife Sislye Waddlove (b. 1550), my 10 x great grandparents.

At one time the Rattlesden PRs were online, and these were incredibly useful for research into this family.  I think they might now have been snatched up by a fee-paying site, as I can't immediately find them. But the good news is that I made copies so can still (fingers crossed) do look-ups on them.  The early research into my Pearle tree was undertaken by my uncle many years ago - pre internet - and he actually visited the parishes and went through the PRs.  Fortunately before he died he handed over his files to me (thanks Fred!).

Regards
GS

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: first name of the Stilwell person
« on: Saturday 24 April 21 07:42 BST (UK)  »
It looks like Markes or Markus.  On the line above  there is a 'Henery' Dibble so I suspect the writer was writing what he heard and didn't have a strong grasp on how to spell names.

Regards
GS

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