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World War One / Re: WWl , Church Commemoration.
« on: Friday 12 October 18 19:02 BST (UK)  »
And a bit of Shakespeare,am I right,?
Love alters not when it alteration finds?

It was just an exercise in a writing class I attended for a while,plagiarising other writers.
We had just a few minutes to produce something but I did not know Binyon
only aware of those lines from The Armistice day readings along with the Kohima epitaph.
I must look him up.Cheerio. Viktoria.

not know zBinyon

4259
Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Help identifying arms
« on: Friday 12 October 18 18:34 BST (UK)  »
That style of crown was very similar to that worn by Charles ll,most of the regalia was broken down by Cromwell and so new had to be made for the
Restoration. Google it.
Portrait of Charles ll in coronation regalia.
Charles’ wife, Catherine of Braganza was a Roman Catholic and he was pretty tolerant.
Wonder how it came to be in a house from 1900.
Charles did develop the Royal Navy, Samuel  Pepys was directly responsible to him for certain matters regarding the Naval Dockyard etc.
How interesting.
Viktoria.

4260
World War One / Re: WWl , Church Commemoration.
« on: Friday 12 October 18 13:57 BST (UK)  »
That is lovely, if such a subject can be but you know what I mean.

We two will meet again and kiss our fond hellos.
We’llwalk together hand in hand just as we used to go.
But age will not have wearied you nor the years condemned,

But I am changed,I am not as I was then.
But love they say changes not when it alteration finds
And even though  the years have passed
The marriage of our minds has stood the test of time.
And all the lonely years will seem but fleeting days
When we two meet again on God’s  serene tomorrow.


The first and last lines are borrowed from Vera Britten’s Testament of Youth.
It was a little excercise in a writing class.
Viktoria.

4261
World War One / Re: WWl , Church Commemoration.
« on: Friday 12 October 18 12:04 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all so much,a little later in the year before Christmas we have a bauble service,when people,not just the usual congregation put a bauble on the Christmas tree in memory of whoever they wish.
Names are read out and families hang their bauble with names attached.
We are having a special tree for Ramsbottom men who were killed in WWl and whose names are to be read out during the service.
The Ramsbottom branch of the British Legion will as always carry the flags
and there is a definitive list of those who did not come back home so we will have every name.
Hopefully some family members will be there as they always are ,proud ,grandchildren etc.
Rawtenstall museum have contacted me and will get back re a copy of Percy Turnbull’s memorial there.
If there is time we will try to get family members organised to put the baubles on the tree,otherwise Legion members will stand in I think.
Lots to do and it is a great privilege to do it,whatever we can do is so little
for so much.
Thanks again everyone.
I include a poem,
Down in the viscous dragging mud they lie
Adding to the mire their youthful blood.
No peaceful graves for them as yet while
Each explosion brings about their savage resurrection
Then see we yet again their ghastly moon white faces
Grinning a mockery of “Grant unto them eternal rest”.
Their feeble comedy of “A Blighty one” seems now a cruel ,tasteless obscene jest.
Into holes “known only unto God “ we push them
Then throw a slimy board across to gain
Another yard of blood soaked Flemish ground,
While screaming shells and bullets vie with the louder,silent cry of
“Dear God will it never end”?
And meanwhile far behind the lines in some elegant chateau
The C.inC plots and hones his foolproof plans
For how to use to best effect the cavalry.
The poor and bloody infantry must prepare the ground
But what he does not see,is the infantry
Are now the ground he’ll send the cavalry over.
In heroic waves they will face the vicious guns
And for cavalry read Calvary but for Judas ,not The Huns.

4262
World War One / Re: WWl , Church Commemoration.
« on: Friday 12 October 18 08:30 BST (UK)  »
On the lunchtime news yesterday,74,000 figures of soldiers in shrouds have been placed by the artist who created them on the grass in front of the
Thiepval memorial to remember those with no known grave from The battle of The Somme.
The display is known as “Shrouds of the Somme”.
That there were very many we know about but I could not visualise so many, but to see the small figures all laid out in neat rows as are the graves in the cemeteries was dreadful.
What a shocking number and that with the 33,000 plus on The Menin Gate-
well words are not enough.
Viktoria.

4263
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Need help figuring out the Father's Name
« on: Thursday 11 October 18 17:41 BST (UK)  »
Sorry, I was not looking at Margaret’s father.
I looked at the top line.
Viktoria.

4264
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Need help figuring out the Father's Name
« on: Thursday 11 October 18 11:17 BST (UK)  »
Not sure it is Thomas,looks like a badly written William with a correction in the middle.
Viktoria.

4265
Lancashire / Re: Oldham Shoe Shop
« on: Wednesday 10 October 18 21:13 BST (UK)  »
Failsworth is not Oldham,it is North Manchester.
However the number  is odd,usually they start from the city centre but Oldham Road is very long and 14 would indicate very near the centre of Manchester.
Perhaps the numbers started again after a road junction possibly Dean Lane.
Or even further up.
Oldham starts after Hollinwood Avenue.
Viktoria.
Not found a Robson St in Manchester but there is one in Oldham near Alexandra Park.
Viktoria







4266
The Lighter Side / Re: Transcribing some interesting records, just wanted to share it
« on: Tuesday 09 October 18 21:40 BST (UK)  »
3sillydogs,I wonder why the man’s entry came before his wife’s,are we correct in assuming he shot her then himself.?
Or was it the other way round, ?the first to die is not always the victim
are they. Whatever it is very sad.
Thanks. Viktoria.

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