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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Edmund Wear
« on: Wednesday 28 February 24 05:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Sandra

First there are two dates for Edmund's death posted by Sandyjose- one on Rootschat 30 July 1876
and same poster I think on another website 30 August 1876

Sandyjose has a lot of threads on the net -my source of Edmund's info

Having said that a lot your info fits

His age born 1833-died 1876 = aged 43

1861 census says he lived Bradford road in Far-town district

1871 census say he lived in York street (York street use to be adjacent Fitzwilliam street next to Union street just off Bradford road)

He died on Beaumont street on his death certificate 1876 but Beaumont street in them years 1870's run off Bradford road under the viaduct by the old bus depot

Also the fact you can't find Edwin's death 1876

Certainly needs a look at

 ;)


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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Edmund Wear
« on: Tuesday 27 February 24 19:06 GMT (UK)  »
Edmund Wear died July 1876 in Beaumont Street, Hillhouse. Huddersfield. in 1870 St Andrew's Church was built 6 years before Edmund Wear's death 1876 on Leeds road and the end of St Andrew's road Hillhouse Huddersfield.

 Beaumont Street is less than a 1/4 mile from St Andrew's church but whether the church had a graveyard is hard to say  as there was enough room around the church for a small burial ground

Found a youtube video of ST Andrew's in link

On the time scale numbers at the bottom of screen reading 3.32/14.41 you see what maybe flatstones through the grass near the church entrance  with maybe  MI's epitaphs, in the grass by a fence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBm544-tn-I

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Resources & Offers / ST John's parish church Bowling Bradford West Yorkshire. Headstones
« on: Tuesday 27 February 24 17:40 GMT (UK)  »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5osu4GIdFoc

 St John's churchyard  was needed to make way for a new ring-road around Bradford city in the 1970's
- there has been questions from none local or distant ancestry researches as to where the grave body remains were re interred and headstones put

All answered in video on you tube in link (bottom right box in video click skip after 5 seconds of the advert to see the video of St John's church)

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Bowling Bradford Cemeteries 1800s query
« on: Monday 26 February 24 21:47 GMT (UK)  »
This youtube video in link below will show you the headstones that were put to the side of the church of St John's church Bowling Bradford

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5osu4GIdFoc

(After 5 seconds of advert click skip bottom right in video to bring the St John video to start)

In the video it states the grave headstones were as I said above were put to the side of the church and the body remains in the graves were interred (Reburied) in Bowing council cemetery 

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Summing up

Bradford local studies library will have the Blackburn Epitaph memorial inscriptions ('Blackburn' was a male clever tramp who went around Bradford churchyards over many decades collecting gravestone memorial epitaphs ) of St John's  church and West Yorkshire archives will have the St John's parish register burials and maybe graveyard burial register records

Hope this info helps any researcher of ancestry of St John's church bowling Bradford  :)

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Bowling Bradford Cemeteries 1800s query
« on: Monday 26 February 24 21:34 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: JackYorkshire on Tuesday 02 January 24 13:09 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Calverley Lad on Sunday 18 March 12 08:00 GMT (UK)
Although the church at Bowling is still there, the graveyard was cleared out late 70's.
The whole area was cleared for the 'inner ring road ' Rooley Lane.
Correction from later post, graveyard was Bierley.
Scholemoor - Main council burial records office for Bradford would be able to provide the burial records.
 Regards Brian

Thank you so much for this. I heard some where many years ago from family that St. John's graveyard was cleared out, but I couldn't think now who to ask. I've found that "John Booth" a relative was buried in the 'Parish of S John Bowling' January 1890. Do you know what happened to the graveyard that was cleared out in the 1970s and where they would be now?

The grave register 1880 to 1896 for St John Bowling Bradford held in West Yorkshire Archives Bradford ground floor shared with Bradford Local studies library

https://www.catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=BDP11&pos=26

Snippet from link above

" BOWLING ST JOHN, PARISH RECORDS (BDP11)

Description   Including registers 1842-1994, grave registers 1880-1896, banns 1912-1993, churchwardens accounts 1887-1944, and papers concerning the National School, 1898-1901"


This is an aerial view now of st John's church and

https://www.google.com/maps/place/St+John's+Church/@53.7825525,-1.7315945,105m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x487be13e102fb81d:0xe87e7d53233ffeba!8m2!3d53.7825348!4d-1.7322568!16s%2Fg%2F1tkshbrz?entry=ttu

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Bowling Bradford Cemeteries 1800s query
« on: Monday 26 February 24 21:16 GMT (UK)  »
Just for the record Bowling council municipal cemetery opened in 1889

 https://www.bradford.gov.uk/births-deaths-marriages-and-civil-partnerships/deaths/burials-and-cemeteries/

Scroll down the page in link above to find

' Cemeteries owned and managed by Bradford Council '

the list of cemeteries 2nd down is Bowling cemetery

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Is this the same woman?
« on: Sunday 25 February 24 04:57 GMT (UK)  »
The nose bridge looks similar with a line across but slight differences - the are few similarities like ears
& chin etc--------------- Sisters maybe  ??? :-\


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Cause of Death, Cause 1
« on: Sunday 25 February 24 03:09 GMT (UK)  »
Some definitions found on the net


Senectus

Old age, senility -  ([defined] ~ to be worn out by old age: senectute, senio confectum esse · to live to a very great age: ad summam senectutem pervenire · old age creeps on )...


Dilatation of heart

(Dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) is a condition in which the left ventricle, the heart's main pumping chamber, is enlarged (dilated). As the chamber gets bigger, its thick muscular wall stretches, becoming thinner and weaker. This affects the heart's ability to pump enough oxygen-rich blood to the rest of the body.)

Fractured thigh

(Hard for old people to recover from- low recovery rate) 

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Early death certifictes post 1837  (say 3 decades) defined it mostly as aging natural decay (Body organ functions were winding down - aging is the time-related deterioration of the physiological functions necessary for survival )

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Locating a Grave in Huddersfield
« on: Sunday 25 February 24 00:18 GMT (UK)  »
For all Kirklees metro council cemeteries and cremation records are now held at the Huddersfield crematorium gate office Fixby Huudersfield, some records copies held at the local studies Library Huddersfield, some at The History centre Wakefield and York Heslington University library.

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