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Hello,

Could someone please be kind enough to check for me if there is a Lucy Worsey, or anyone by the name of Cartwright living in High Street, Nantwich, in the 1871, 1881, and possibly even the 1891 Censuses ?

Thankyou.

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Cheshire / Re: Sampson Cartwright, Nantwich
« on: Friday 01 July 05 16:08 BST (UK)  »
Confused matters? No, not at all - in fact, clarified something. I remembered I'd seen a Stafford connection somewhere, but couldn't remember where and couldn't find it.

No, I need to do a bit of unpicking, but your information is very helpful.

Thankyou very much!


Neil

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Thanks, it's sorted. He was in Preston.

Neil

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Thanks Ticker

It's OK. I found him in Preston. He certainly got around. (He was apparently married, but lodging on his own with a family. Maybe he was fleeing the consequences of an unsuccessful marriage without being able to afford a divorce. Who knows???)

Thanks again

Neil

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Shropshire / Re: Birth of Clara Powell, c1869
« on: Wednesday 15 June 05 17:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dorothy,

Interesting!

I guess Fred's mother could be anyone from Matilda backwards (assuming that the mother was a Powell and not the father). Unlikely to be Agnes or Lydia (I assume they were twins).

The eligible unmarried ones were Mary, Leah, Annie and Frances. One explanation for Fred (and Samuel)'s mother not living with them re. the 1901 census is that she may have died.

Annie doesn't appear in the 1871 census, but at 16 we could assume that she was in service.

Caroline and Leah are missing also. They would have been 13 and 11 respectively. Is that too young to be out in service? I don't know. But Caroline married Davenport, so perhaps she's not eligible anyway.

Fred's Birth Certificate will say anyway, although perhaps not the father.

I spoke to my mother at the weekend. She doesn't know anything really about the Powell family. For some reason, her mother (my grandmother, Jane Edge) fell out with Clara, and so she never really saw that side of the family.

She remembers that they used to live in Broad Lane, on the Audlem road, just outside Nantwich, and remembers her being driven into Nantwich in a horse and trap. (I've got an old suitcase in the loft which, I'm sure, has a Broad Lane address. I must check it - it could have been hers).

She also remembers visiting her with my father at the Barony Hospital (it would have been about 1947) where she eventually died. She says she may have a photo of her somewhere.

Malpas, hey? I grew up in Nantwich, but left to work and live in Hastings, East Sussex in 1978. However, in 2001, I'd had enough of the 'rat-race' so we left to live in the Somme region of France. (My wife is French, and we have 2 little ones aged 2 and 7 months. I also have 2 brilliant kids, 18 and 19, from my first marriage).

I'll check the case and chase up a photo. I can also post you a 'family tree' print out re. the Powell connection.

Neil

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Cheshire / 1841 Census: Sampson & Emma Cartwright
« on: Tuesday 14 June 05 23:37 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to trace the whereabouts of Sampson (aged 57) and Emma (aged 58) Cartwright in the 1841 Census.

In 1851, they appear, I believe,  at Cheerbrook Cottage, Willaston, Nantwich.

Can anybody help?

Thanks


Neil

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It certainly is!

Thankyou very much, Joe.


Neil

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Shropshire / Re: Birth of Clara Powell, c1869
« on: Wednesday 08 June 05 21:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi Poppies

Thankyou again for the info on the Powell family. Can’t give you any info on Powells, but I can on the Owen branch that Clara married into. (If I am repeating myself, please bear with me).

Clara married Joseph Owen 18 Feb 1891. Joseph lived in Coole Lane, Baddington, and was was the son of William Owen (28.9.1832 – 16.9.1889) and Martha Dykes (c1832). Strangely, I haven’t been able to trace their marriage certificate. Martha’s parents were George Dykes (28.2.1808) and Martha Stockton (c1802); I don’t have William’s parents. William was born in Worleston, near Nantwich.

William and Martha’s family were Mary (1852), Sarah (1858), Thomas (1860), Elizabeth (1862), George (1864), Jane (1866), Joseph (1869), Charles (1871) and Lily (1876).

Clara and Joseph’s family were Thomas (1887), Reginald (1892), Oliver (1895), Doris (1897), Joseph (1900), Hilda (1902) and Margaret (1903). Other than my granfather, Joseph, I’m not sure that I remember any of them (though I’m told that I must do). My grandad, Joseph, died on 23.01.1974.

As for the Powell family moving to Hack Green – the 1901 census has:

2 Hack Green
Samuel Powell 72 Agricultural Labourer    born Bagley, Shrops
Emma Powell 65            born Wem
Joseph Powell 27  Agricultural Labourer   born Wem
Lydia Powell 23   Domestic Servant   born Wem
Fred Powell 11 (grandson)         born Acton
Samuel Powell 6 (grandson)         born Acton

11 Coole Lane
Joseph Owen 32 Agricultural Labourer   born Coole Lane
Clara Owen 32            born Pool Head, Shrops
Reginald Owen  9            born Coole Lane
Oliver  Owen 6            born Coole Lane
Doris Owen 4               born Coole Lane
Joseph Owen 9 months         born Coole Lane
Martha (mother) 69 widow         born Coole Lane
Elizabeth (sister) 38 Domestic Servant   born Coole Lane

Hack House Farm
Thomas Owen 14 Cowman on Farm      born Hack Green

Hope some of this is useful. I’ll ask my mother at the weekend if she remembers anything about the Powell family. You never know!





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Shropshire / Re: Birth of Clara Powell, c1869
« on: Tuesday 07 June 05 23:17 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Poppies,

I'll speak to my mother at the weekend to see if she recognises anything.

By the way, where are you?

Neil

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