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Lanarkshire / Re: 13 year old giving birth? Family cover up? Elspeth Millar 1903
« on: Sunday 16 February 20 08:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all and many thanks for helping solve this puzzle.

Baby Elspeth born 11 June 1903 Royal Infirmary, Glasgow.
Died 20 July 1903 Royal Infirmary, Glasgow.    Both events reported by Mary sister

Mother Elspeth died 9 August 1903 4 North St, Glasgow.    Parents info wrong and reported by "Brother" Adam Robson who is in fact her partner.

I think this clears up why Mary reported the birth and death.     Although I still do not understand  why Adam would confuse things.    I cannot find an Elspeth Robson in Scotland between 1865 and 1910.

Thanks again to all

Harry


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Lanarkshire / Re: 13 year old giving birth? Family cover up? Elspeth Millar 1903
« on: Saturday 15 February 20 18:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mckha489

The 3 Robson children were registered by both Adam Robson and Elspeth Millar and yes I take your point thanks

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Lanarkshire / Re: 13 year old giving birth? Family cover up? Elspeth Millar 1903
« on: Saturday 15 February 20 18:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi CaroleW

thanks for the prompt reply.    Elspeth died in Aug 1903 tumour of the pelvis   Informant Adam, her partner, but shown as her brother.   All other children with Adam registered as Robson.    Elspeth had 3 other illegitimate children born between 1886 and 1895 Mary was one.

Harry


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Lanarkshire / 13 year old giving birth? Family cover up? Elspeth Millar 1903
« on: Saturday 15 February 20 18:05 GMT (UK)  »
I have a family living in 4 North St, Glasgow.    Husband Adam Robson, partner Elspeth Millar.   They have 3 children together and are acknowledged as parents on BCs between 1899 and 1902.   However there is also a child born in 1903 same address, mother Elspeth, no father and birth registered by Mary Millar "sister".    The death cert is also registered by Mary and no father shown..    Mary was born in 1890 which would make her 13 IF she was in fact the mother.   Elspeth senior also died in 1903.   

Could Mary have been the mother at 13?
Could the family covered this up by allowing Mary herself to register both events
The cause of death was congenital debility

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Sligo / Re: Roseanne/ Rose Ann Logan 1862-1926
« on: Tuesday 14 January 20 12:27 GMT (UK)  »
Catherines address on her 1883 marriage to William Rose is:  15 Church Place, Glasgow Road, Glasgow.

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Sligo / Re: Roseanne/ Rose Ann Logan 1862-1926
« on: Monday 13 January 20 20:17 GMT (UK)  »
Rose Logan Marriage

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Sligo / Re: Roseanne/ Rose Ann Logan 1862-1926
« on: Monday 13 January 20 11:16 GMT (UK)  »
Checked the MC and fathers name is not clear.    Mothers name is Winifred HODGE!

What was her father's occupation and were any of the witnesses family members?

Occupation Plumber and Gasfitter.   Witnesses Francis Cxxxxx and Mary Murray.   

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Sligo / Re: Roseanne/ Rose Ann Logan 1862-1926
« on: Monday 13 January 20 10:56 GMT (UK)  »









William ROSE 29 Liverpool occ Baker
Katherine Rose   27 Sligo
Winnieford LOGAN 62 Sligo

Have you checked the 1883 m/c details for Catherine?

LOGAN
CATHERINE

ROSE
WILLIAM

1883
646/3 167
Partick

Checked the MC and fathers name is not clear.    Mothers name is Winifred HODGE!

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Sligo / Re: Roseanne/ Rose Ann Logan 1862-1926
« on: Monday 13 January 20 08:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you LadyHawk
on the DC for Winifred her husband is shown as Edward Dec, her  father is shown as Edward (Dec) and Mo as Mary Hogg ms Gallacher (Dec) informant Catherine Rose (dau) address 48 McAslin St, Glasgow.    Isuppose if he was deceased there may have been a mix up.

Sorry, I donít understand this.
Is this Winifred, Rose Annís mother, Winfred Logan?
Is she on any Scottish censuses with her husband?
Who is Catherine Rose?

Yes Winifred is the mother of R-A.    I also presume that Catherine Rose is R-As sister.    On Winifreds death cert the informant is Catherine shown as dau.   I cannot find Winifred on any Scottish census with husband.   

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