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London and Middlesex / Mary Ann Watts or Hunt?
« on: Tuesday 15 September 09 08:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi Folks

I have hit a brick wall in trying to find out the names of my great grandmothers parents.

My great grand mother was according to her marriage certificate Mary Ann Watts when age 20 on 11th January 1880 she married my great grand father John Goodey at St. Pancras Parish church. She gives her father as Frederick Watts (deceased) a tailor.  Witnesses Robert Goodey and Elizabeth Watts

According to the 1881 Census John Goodey a baker aged 31 born in Islington abt. 1850 was living at 3 Ann Street, St. James Clerkenwell (Islington area) with his wife Mary A. Goodey aged 22 born abt. 1859 in Lambeth, Surrey and their son John aged 1  born abt. 1880 in St. Pancras, Middlesex.

If the above two records are correct this would I believe mean that Mary Ann Watts was born between January 1859 and April 1859, i.e. married shortly before her 21st birthday.

The only Census record linking a Frederick Watts with a Mary Watts is as follows.

According to the 1871 living at 2 Henry Place (Parish of St. Silas Islington London)
Frederick Watts     60 born abt. 1811 in Warminster Wiltshire a Tailor
Mary Watts    60 born abt. 1811 in Islington
with their children???
Mary Watts    15 born abt. 1855
Thomas Watts    7   born abt 1864
Betsey Watts    12 born abt. 1859
Minnie Watts    10 born abt. 1861
All children born in  Lambeth, Surrey. The parents apper to be too old to be the parents. Possibly they were the grand parents?

Unfortunately this record gives the wrong year of birth for my Mary Ann Watts who is unlikely to have twice made her age (at time of marriage and 1881 Census) 4 years younger, especially as she would I believe at the time of marriage had to have her parents permission to get married.

Somewhat confusingly my great grandmother has given different former names on the birth certificates on her children John in 1880 when she gave her former name as Watts, Henry in 1881 when she gave her former name as Hunt, Louisa in 1888 when she gave her former name as Hunt and lastly on the birth of my grandfather George, when she gave her former name as Watts. In each birth the father was the same John Goodey (Goody on Henry and George's certificates) is described as a Baker. Also I know much about Louisa's life (she was always known as Aunt Minn) and know I have the correct birth certificate for her.

In addition all 4 children appear with their mother in the 1901 Census where Mary Goody a widow aged 40 born abt. 1861 profession charing, was living at 57 Midhope Buildings (Midhope Street?) St. Pancras, Middlesex with her children John Goody aged 20 born abt 1881 profession a Carman, Henry Goody aged 18 born abt. 1883 also a Carman,  Minnie aged 12 born abt. 1889 and George aged 10 born abt 1891. All including Mary born in St. Pancras London.

I have also obtained a birth Certificate for a Mary Ann Hunt on the basis that my great grandmothers father might have died and her mother married again to a Frederick Watts. There was only one Mary Ann Hunt born in Lambeth (taken from the 1881 Census) that I could find on Free BMD who according to the birth cert was born on 4th Oct 1859 in Gipsy Hill, Norwood to parents John Hunt and Mary Ann Hunt formerly Lisney.

So far I haven't been able to find a second marriage for Mary Ann Hunt ne Lisney to a Frederick Watts.

I would appreciate any help to unravel this mystery would be gratefully appreciated.

best wishes

Richard



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The Common Room / Serching for an 1880's School Rugby Team photo
« on: Friday 08 May 09 13:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi 

I am seeking an old school photo but I am not sure where to put this post on this forum.

My grandfather Alfred Norton Garrett attended the Royal Grammar School in Newcastle upon Tyne in the 1880's. He played for the school Rugby Team. A photo which included him, was taken of the Team.

According to the June 1887 edition of the school magazine "The Novocastrian" the Team photo was advertised as follows:- A most excellent photograph of the Team has been taken, suitable for framing: if any are desirous of possessing a copy, a postal order for 3 shillings, payable to R. A. Harris (a member of the school staff?), will procure one, by return of post.

The members of the team with positions were as follows:-
W. Tyson - 3/4; H. Thompson - 3/4 or forward; T. Crone - 1/2; J. Miller - 1/2; E. Woodhouse - back; O. Heslop; T. Beattie; W. Rycroft; H. Angus - forward; W. Newstead and

My grandfather A. N. Garrett - forward (Always on the ball, especially on the enemy's line for a try - according to the magazine).

I have tried the archivist of the Royal Grammar School in Newcastle and they don't have a copy of the photo but they did say that they would also be pleased to obtain a copy if I could find someone who had it.

Any help to locate this photo would be gratefully appreciated.

Regards

Richard.



129
Armed Forces / H.M.S. Furious - Second China War - 1850's
« on: Friday 08 May 09 13:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi

My great grand father Rev. William Whitehall Garrett joined H.M.S. Furious on 12 Mar 1857 and served on board as Naval Chaplain until 1860.

Whilst on board Rev. W.W.Garrett saw action during the Trade Wars with China at the bombardment of Canton in 1857 and at the blockade of the Tacu forts near Tientsin on the Peiho river in 1858.

During the time he was an officer with H.M.S. Furious, Rev. W. W. Garrett sailed with this vessel when it was used as his base by the 8th Lord Elgin, Plenipotentiary (i.e. British Ambassador).

This included a voyages made by H.M.S. Furious further up the Yangtze Kiang River inland as far as Hankow in China than any other non Chinese ship had done at the time, also to Japan on a diplomatic mission and returning home via the newly opened Suez Canal in 1859.

Renowned artists and photographers of the time were on board to record these events, including Colonel Crealock, Captain Dodwell R.N., Signor Felice Beato, Robert Morrison and Jocelyn.

I am seeking help to locate photographs or other artists representations made during these voyage of H.M.S. Furious.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Regards

Richard

130
Other Countries / Ceylon: Seeking date of my grandparents marriage
« on: Friday 08 May 09 12:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi

My grandfather Rev. Alfred Norton Garrett was Vicar of St. Peters (Garrison) Church and acting chaplain to the forces, Fort Colombo, Colombo, Ceylon.

He married my grandmother Edith Mary Miller a school mistress (who liked to be called Muriel Edith Mary Miller) in 1915 or 1916. I believe their marriage took place at St. Peter's Church, the day after my grandmother had arrived by the Bibby Company Liner the "Herefordshire" from England.

She departed Liverpool on 11th December 1915 and went via Marseilles, Port Said (and the Suez Canal) to Colombo, possibly having to avoid the German Navy on the way.

At the time of my mothers birth on 25th May 1918 her parents were living at Colpetty which is a district of Colombo I believe.

My grandparents and my mother returned to England in 1922.

Any help to establish the exact date and location of this marriage and witness and possibly sources of photographs of it it would be gratefully appreciated.

Many thanks

Richard

131
Library and FHS Lookups / London Metroplitan Archives Lookup request
« on: Friday 08 May 09 11:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi

I am seeking a little help from someone planning to visit the L.M.A.

I am looking for details of my great grandmother Mary Ann Watts who was born in the Lambeth Workhouse, Princes Road, Lambeth on 9 Jul 1855.

On her birth certificate no name is given for her father and her mother's name is given as Ann Watts.

I know that the L.M.A archives are being transcribed for online viewing, but so far there is no Admissions and Discharges or Religious Creed data etc., online yet for this Workhouse.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

many thanks

Richard

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