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US Lookup Requests / Re: San Francisco Census Look up please
« on: Monday 20 August 12 14:16 BST (UK)  »
Thomas Gibney lived in St. Paul. Minnesota in 1898-9 and worked on the construction of the Minnesota State Capitol.  According to the St. Paul City Directory of 1898 he was boarding at 193 Fuller along with John Gibney and several other stone cutters including William J. Harvey, Daniel King and William White.  All these men were itinerant stone cutters and they are very difficult to trace.  There is a picture of Thomas Gibney in the St. Paul Globe newspaper of 27 Feb. 1899 on p.8.  He was a Union activist, like many stone cutters, and there are some other references to him in the Globe.  I can't figure out how to post the picture here but you can get it on the Library of Congress newspaper website. 
I, and several others, are working on a project researching the construction workers on the Minnesota Capitol.  If anyone has actually found any of those old Stone Cutter Journals (other than the few on Google Books) please let me know!


Many thanks your most welcome contribution to our search! It has helped greatly to confirm and find new information about Thomas. Can I ask how you knew about him? Are there records for people like Thomas, maybe with a Stonecutters organisation?


were you aware of Josie's husband Thomas before this? Do you have family pictures of Josie? We have one photo of Josie and Thomas together as an older couple.

Alison & Grainne

(I think I have successfully attached the image of Thomas from the Globe, 1899, below)

Dublin / Re: Duggans - Dublin
« on: Sunday 08 July 12 13:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi Arsenal!

I don't personally know of any Thomas Duggan born in that decade but it's possible that there could be a connection. Do you know his parents' names and ages? Or maybe his grandparents'?

Dublin / Re: Duggans - Dublin
« on: Saturday 31 December 11 14:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone, I have a copy at home, I will pull it out as soon as I can! Maybe there were two Silvesters!

Dublin / Re: Duggans - Dublin
« on: Sunday 04 September 11 22:28 BST (UK)  »
So I went back to the archives to have a look at the two Richard Guinness entries.

The 1758 one, lists Richard Guiness as a 'smith', and says that he's a son of William Guiness.

The 1792 entry, as Richard Guinness, just says that he's a 'smith', and no other information.

Logically I would say that these men were father and son, given the dates, but how could they be if James Keely and the Kavanaghs were listed with exactly the same relationship to both? Now there was a William Guinness who was admitted in 1719, as a gunsmith, by service with Laurence Quin, 'smith'. I'm thinking maybe this is our line? I have found contact details for a woman online who claims that this William Guinness was Richard Guinness' (brewer) brother. I've emailed her, but have yet to hear back.

Dublin / Re: Duggans - Dublin
« on: Tuesday 30 August 11 21:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

I ran into town after work yesterday to go look at the Freeman Rolls. I saw Edward Duggan in 1910, grandson of James Keely, as mentioned previously. However, I also found a James Joseph Duggan, of 46 Stafford Street, who was also admitted as a grandson of James Keely, on 18/7/1883. I had thought maybe it was our Joseph Duggan, but he would've have been too young, being born in 1875, would he not? So maybe we've missed another sibling? Or does anyone have a James Joseph Duggan in their tree?

I also found a Michael Keely, admitted as a son of James Keely on 18/7/1864. This would make him a sibling of Julia Duggan (nee Keely), perhaps the Michael Kealy (b. 1839) that I mentioned in a post above?

Next I looked up James Keely's entry, which was as is mentioned in here in previous posts, on the 20/11/1841 on account of being married to a granddaughter of Richard Guinness (1792). I also found the other names that LKenney has mentioned above, who were entered on the same dates. They were a Richard Kavanagh of 60 Marlborough Street, a law clerk, on account of being a grandson of Richard Guinness; a William Kavanagh of 80 Aungier Street, also a law clerk, also a grandson; and finally Arthur Kavanagh, also of 80 Aungier Street, a cabinet maker who is also listed as a grandson. Now, firstly I'm thinking that these Kavanaghs might be related to the Mary Ann Kavanagh that Liam as mentioned on page 3? I am presuming that one of Richard Guinness' daughters married a Kavanagh, which is where that part of the line starts.

Then, I decided to look through the entire section of 'K's to see if any other Keelys or Kavanaghs were mentioned. ONE month later, the same four men (James Keely, Richard, William and Arthur Kavanagh) are entered AGAIN, but this time the date is the 14/12/1841, and instead of listing Richard Guinness 1792, it refers to a Richard Guinness 1758. However, the relationship to said Richard Guinness (grandsons and married to granddaughter) remains the same, which, except for the dates, would indicate that they are the same man? But how is this possible if Richard Guinness, father of Arthur (brewer) apparently died in 1766?

To try and clear up the confusion, my aim is to get back into the archives at some stage, and find the entries for 1758 and 1792 to determine who is who!

I have my own head muddled from all of this and I'm sure it will confuse the rest of you too!

Dublin / Re: Duggans - Dublin
« on: Monday 08 August 11 15:02 BST (UK)  »
Looks like some more children of James and Mary Ann. These are what I've found so far;

Silvester Joseph (1830)
Julia (1832)
Eliza Bridget (1833)
James (1836)
Michael John (1839)

The only ones with a Guinness sponsor are Silvester and Eliza though.

Dublin / Re: Duggans - Dublin
« on: Monday 08 August 11 14:41 BST (UK)  »
That's the trouble of getting back so far! Sigh, it is worth a try though. Never know what I might find.

Dublin / Re: Duggans - Dublin
« on: Monday 08 August 11 14:27 BST (UK)  »
Ok, I think I've found the Guinness woman that James Keely married. I found a baptism record of Juila Kealy on named her father as James Keely, and the mother as Marianne, but no surname. I then found two certs for a Silvester Keely and Eliza Bridget Keely, both with father and mother listed as James and Mary Anne. Eliza's female sponsor is a Bridget Guinness, and Silvester's male sponsor is a Richard Guinness. They are all in St. Andrew's church (a.k.a. Westland Row). It all fits nicely so far as Silvester (or Sylvester) is the name of one of Thomas Duggan and Julia Keely's sons.

Having looked through google for information on the Guinness family tree, it's all a bit confusing. I can only see one grandchild of Richard Guinness named Mary Anne, apparently Arthur's own daughter, who seems to have married a man named Burke. I'm sceptical of these links as I don't see any proof, so I think I'm going to go into The National Library tomorrow and just scour through the parish records for St. Andrews for the time. The most important cert I shall be looking for will be the marriage of James Keely and Mary Anne, which should hopefully name her father. The three baptism records I found were from 1830 to 1833 so I think I'll just go backwards from 1830 and hope for the best....

Dublin / Re: Dublin Tenements - TV Series on TV3
« on: Wednesday 03 August 11 21:13 BST (UK)  »
I'll certainly be watching it!

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