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Armed Forces / Re: Waterloo ancestors
« on: Tuesday 01 February 11 00:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi doire

There is a David Simpson showing in the Waterloo medal roll as serving as a Gunner under Lt.Colonel R. Bull's Troop and is showing on page 21 at number 1090 of the original roll call.

There is no Alexander Norris listed, but there are 4 people in the roll call called Thomas Wallace but none served in the same troop at David Simpson.

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Leicestershire / Loughborough Electoral Register 1959-60
« on: Sunday 30 January 11 13:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi folks

Just dipping a toe in the water to see what your reaction is, as part of searching for a relative Iris Sheldon b: 1925 at Long Eaton, Derbyshire that I believe maybe married in Loughborough in 1949 to a Nelson Varney, I have been scanning the above Electoral Roll which is now out of copyright. (The 50 year rule)

I have scanned the pages with a handheld scanner and I'm using OCR software to first put it into an Excel spreadsheet and then a SQL database so its fully searchable.

This will be completed by the end of February, would anyone be interested on here in wanting me to search for recent relatives and telling your where they were living during the years 1959-1960.  There are some really interesting and unusual surnames that I have so far come across.

The only other info available is:

The Elector is a Service Voter.
The Elector is NOT entitled to vote in respect of that entry at Parliamentary Elections.
The Elector is NOT entitled to vote in respect of that entry at Elections of County Councillors.
The Elector is NOT entitled to vote in respect of that entry at Elections of Rural District Council.
The Elector will be entitled to vote only at Elections held after 1st October, 1959.
The Electors liability for service as Juror.

Mike

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Framework Knitters in Arnold
« on: Saturday 15 January 11 12:59 GMT (UK)  »
Matt

Don't know if you've read other posts here but if you look at  'Arnold, The King's Church : burials' you will see a list of Shelton burials at St Mary's Church, Arnold I've posted after a request from someone here.  Should help with your research.

Mike

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Armed Forces / Re: Waterloo ancestors
« on: Friday 07 January 11 00:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Martin

My Great, Great, Great Uncle Thomas Sheldon was born in Beeston, Nottinghamshire in 1795.  He was at Waterloo in 1815 in the Royal Horse Artillery as a Gunner & Driver.

My attention to his possible involvement in the battle was drawn to research when I discovered in the transcription of his burial the comment ‘Waterloo Man’, which was confirmed when I looked at the scan of the original document at the Nottingham records office.  Later I also discovered at the National Archives at Kew his discharge papers and requested a copy which confirmed he served at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815.  He also served in France for 3 years 6 months which would of been possibly before but certainly after the battle and also in England and Ireland.  He was medically discharged from the army in 1840 with an ‘exemplary’ record and then worked at the Royal Ordnance Hospital in Woolwich and is showing in the 1841 census as the Driver for the Director General of the Hospital a Capt Webb.  His wife Elizabeth Sheldon was also working at the hospital as an Office Keeper together with their children William, Elizabeth, Robert and Sarah (William and Robert I have reason to believe joined the military together with their oldest son Thomas Sheldon who joined the Royal Horse Artillery as well).  In the 1851 census they are still showing as working at the hospital and Thomas is the driver for the then retired Director General of the hospital Capt Webb the children are not on the census record with them.  In the 1861 Census they have by then moved back to Nottingham and are living in Scont Lane, Arnold, Nottingham and he is listed as a Chelsea Pensioner.  He died and was buried on 18/11/1875 at St Mary’s Church in Arnold, Nottingham but there was no memorial erected by his widow, I have yet to discover the area in the graveyard where he was buried, but have found two articles in the newspapers of the time about his life, his death and funeral.

I have discovered that in the actual roll call taken after the battle when the names were recorded his name was taken and looks like Thomas Shelder.  His name is entered under the list of the ‘Officers & Privates of the Royal Horse & Foot Artillery’ under Lieutenant Coln  A. Dickson’s Troop on page 18 as a Driver at number 813 of the roll call.

I have been in touch with David Milner, a historian for the Association of Friends of the Waterloo Committee.  The president is His Grace The Duke of Wellington KG,LVO,OBE,MC,DL; The Prince of Waterloo. David has the job of compiling any information about the men who fought in the battle and what happened to them afterwards, and as important is discovering where they are buried.  I have given him the most information that he currently has about any of the ordinary soldiers that took part in the battle and also about his life afterwards.

Michael Sheldon


 

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Nottinghamshire / Unfortunate Surnames
« on: Thursday 06 January 11 02:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there

Those of us who have been doing this for more than a year have more than likely at some point had the urge to wander a few graveyards in the hope of finding a family plot with a stone clarifying the info we have.  And I like most have done this a couple of times in Beeston, Arnold and Long Eaton and discovered lost graves and relatives.

Last September after running the New Forest Marathon in Hampshire, a few days later I had organised a day trip with the agreement of my other half. This was to look for the widow of Thomas Sheldon (my Great, Great, Great, Great Uncle), Elizabeth Sheldon and her daughter Elizabeth Margaret who died in Blackawton, Devon in 1883 and 1914 respectively.

During my hunt through the graveyard I came across this memorial and just had to photograph it, sorry but I had to laugh at the unfortunate surname.  I just thought I'd share this with you all.

Regards
Mike

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World War Two / Re: Beacon Army Camp Photos 1940-1945
« on: Thursday 06 January 11 01:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

During the 70's we had to go to do either junior or senior Brecon for our NCO training. We also did some FIBUA (Fighting In Built Up Areas) and DIBUA (Defense In Built Up Areas) training in the mock German village in the middle of the training area.

Brings back alot of memories thinking about that lot.

Mike


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World War Two / Re: para engineer and bomber pilot
« on: Thursday 06 January 11 00:57 GMT (UK)  »
Steve

Thought you would like this info about 166 Squadron.

166 SQUADRON

Formed 13th June 1918 at Bircham Newton.

F.E.2b; Handley Page V/1500 E8273.

Disbanded 31st May 1919 at Bircham Newton.

Reformed 1st November 1936 at Boscombe Down from 'B' Flight of 97 Squadron. Merged with 97 Squadron to become 4 Group Pool from 15th September 1939.

Nil (11.36 - 6.39)          Heyford III K6862.
GB                             Allocated for the period April to June 1939 but no evidence of use.
AS (6.39 - 4.40)           Whitley I K7184 AS-A, III K8942.


Disbanded 6th April 1940 at Abingdon and merged with 97 Squadron to become 10 Operational Training Unit.

Reformed 27th January 1943 at Kirmington by merging elements of 142 and 150 Squadrons.

AS                               Wellington III X3334 AS-W, X HZ314 AS-P; Lancaster I ED731 AS-T2, III ND623/G AS-F.

Disbanded 18th November 1945 at Kirmington.

Regards
Mike

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Arnold, The King's Church : burials
« on: Thursday 30 December 10 01:51 GMT (UK)  »
Gary

I have found these in the 1851 census:

Address: 2, Great Coram Street, Saint George Bloomsbury, Finsbury

SURGEY, John Bailey     Head,  Unmarried, age: 35,  born: 1816 Clapton, Middx, Profession: Artist
SURGEY, William P       Brother, Unmarried, age: 33, born: 1818 Clapton, Profession: Ship & Insurance Broker
FRANKLIN, Elizabeth    Servant, Unmarried, age: 30, born: 1821 Kensington, Profession: General Servant
HAYCROFT, Elizabeth   Servant, Unmarried, age: 27, born: 1824 Hampton, Profession: General Servant

The 1851 census was taken on 31/03/1851.

in the 1861 census.

Address: 6, Cobham Terrace, Swanscombe, Kent

SURGEY, William Palmer  Head Married  43 1818 Hackney, Middlesex
SURGEY, Mary Charlotte  Wife Married   39 1822 London
SURGEY, William               Son                 8  1853 Scholar Hackney, Middlesex
SURGEY, Thomas              Son                 6  1855 Scholar Hackney, Middlesex
SURGEY, Alfred Palmer      Son                 5  1856 Scholar Hackney, Middlesex
SURGEY, Mary Anna       Daughter           4  1857 Scholar Hackney, Middlesex
SURGEY, Norman Manner  Son                2  1859              Hackney, Middlesex
SURGEY, Edwin Barley       Son               1   1860              Hackney, Middlesex
INFANT, Infant                   Son              0(11Days) 1861  Kent
MOORE, Ann                    Widow            49 1812 Monthly Nurse Tetney, Gloucestershire
LITTLECHILD, Mary Little Servant           29 1832 Cook  Epping, Essex
HOLLAND, Charlotte        Servant           17 1844 Housemaid North Cray, Kent

The 1861 census was taken on 07/04/1861.

The marriage record shows:

Male Name: SURGEY, William Palmer
Female Name:  GAISFORD, Mary Charlotte
Registration District:  Hackney
County:  London
Year of Registration:  1851
Quarter of Registration:  Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume No:  3
Page No:  173

The marriage cert will show you their fathers name + the name of witnesses.
Birth certs are not available before September 1837 you can only find the parents names from parish records.

From the census records they seem to be consistent with the spelling of their name so it may be that the parents surname was the same but you can't assume anything in this game.

Hope this helps.
Mike

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Charles Foster
« on: Wednesday 29 December 10 00:01 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

As Copperbeach5 has said your only real option is to trawl through the newspapers that they have on film.  They have plenty of film readers at the library and are very helpful staff, I would suggest you look at the Nottingham Post as thats the main paper and if its in any it will be in that one.

Good luck with your search.

Mike

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