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Family History Beginners Board / Re: John Irvin, mariner; drowned, died or ran away?
« on: Wednesday 06 January 21 01:07 GMT (UK)  »


Marriage certificate, 1848.....what names do you see for witnesses?.....bride / groom / witnesses...are they literate?....does anyone sign with their mark?

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Australia / Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« on: Tuesday 05 January 21 07:00 GMT (UK)  »

QLD BDM
Mathew FITZPATRICK.....died  15/04/1890
Parents   Mary SMITH / John FITZPATRICK
Registration details:1890/C/468

Using BDM QLD and searching FITZPATRICK births with Mat(t)hew father...to 1891.....I do not see any.

Searching FITZGERALD deaths with father Mat(t)hew father......I do not see any.

Births might not be recorded at isolated locations.  Matthew FIRZPATRICK dies a trauma (unexpected) death......and there is someone around who can name his parents for the death certificate?.

That death certificate, 1890, might be useful to your research.


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Australia / Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« on: Tuesday 05 January 21 02:18 GMT (UK)  »

South Australian Advertiser 13 Dec 1877  p4
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/29597343?

 FITZPATRICK. —On the 3rd December, at Laura, of inflammation of the lungs, Thomas Fitzpatrick, eldest son of John and Mary Fitzpatrick, of Auburn, aged 23 years. R.I.P.

                                  ------------------------------------------------------------

The Advertiser 30 Apr 1892   p4
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/25326905?

BYRNE.-On the 27th April, at Broken Hill of consumption, Mary, second daughter of John and E.
Byrne, aged 16 Years, and beloved granddaughter of Mrs FITZPATRICK, of Auburn, South Australia


NSW BDM death
3495/1892   BYRNE Mary    parents John / Bridget     @   Broken Hill

                                      ---------------------------------------------------

The Advertiser  29 Mar 1906  p4
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/25326905?

FITZPATRICK. - On the 23rd March, at the residence of her daughter (Mrs. J. BYRNE, Clare),
Mary, relict of the late John FITZPATRICK, of Auburn, aged 84. R.I.P. A colonist of 56 years.
W.A. papers please copy.

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Australia / Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« on: Tuesday 05 January 21 01:54 GMT (UK)  »


The Express and Telegraph (SA) 5 Aug 1890 p2
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/208389104?

FITZPATRICK.-On the 8th April, accidentally shot, at Paddy's Camp, Thornton River, Queensland,
Matthew, the second dearly-beloved son of J. and M. FITZPATRICK of Auburn, S.A., aged 35 years, and brother of the late Thomas FITZPATRICK, of Laura.


https://www.familyhistory.bdm.qld.gov.au/

Mathew FITZPATRICK.....died  15/04/1890
Parents   Mary SMITH / John FITZPATRICK
Registration details:1890/C/468




The Advertiser   18 Sep 1891 p4
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/24802244?

KEARNAN.—On the 31st August, at Callington, of pleurisy, Margaret, the beloved wife of Arthur
KEARNAN and beloved sister of the late Thomas FITZPATRICK, of Laura, and the late M. FITZPATRICK, of Queensland, leaving five children and a large circle of sorrowing relatives and friends to mourn their loss.



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Australia / Re: Margaret Fitzpatrick ,South Australia
« on: Tuesday 05 January 21 01:42 GMT (UK)  »
What is the source of this information?
"...born Oct 2 1857/58 in Auburn SA."


Can you please list all the information on this marriage certificate.

SA BDM
KEIRNAN   Arthur    marr.   Margaret   Clare   120/310   1879



Where and when did Margaret die?

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Ann GREW......10 month old child baptised on Christmas Day.

Who else was baptised St Andrew Holborn  25 Dec 1811.....

Who was married  St Andrew Holborn 25 Dec 1811......

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If you are interested in researching the origins of George GREW  marr. Elizabeth MOWATT, St Mary Stoke Newington 2 Mar 1809, you need to know more about the family they have.

If you see the name Caroline Rhodes GREW, which they give to a daughter, to suggest a related family,  then you might similarly hope that accounting for all their children.....siblings of your ancestor James George GREW.....might produce further clues.

I think these are children of George GREW and Elizabeth MOWATT.......

Ancestry London BDM

Parish Church St Pancras  20 Aug 1837
GREW Sarah     age****.....spinster......res. Wimbledon Place
Father   George GREW   brazier

MILLER Edward   21y.......bachelor tailor....res. 11 York St
Father Robert MILLER   tailor
Witnesses   George GREW   Martha GREW

                    ----------------------------------

St Bride Fleet Street City of London  30 Sep 1839
GREW James George   full age....bachelor.......brazier....res 15 Fleet Street
Father   George GREW     brazier

TRIGGS  Eliza  full age.....spinster....res 27 Fleet St
Father  Alexander TRIGGS    brush maker

                              -------------------------------------------


St Bride Fleet St   21 Aug 1842
GREW Mary Ann  (X) ....spinster....full age.......res. 12 Wilmington Place
Father  George GREW  tea urn maker

SLATER  Thomas George.........full age...... blind maker...res. 20 Bayswater Rd
Father    George SLATER    blind maker

Witnesses   Edward MILLER  Eliza JACKSON

                            ---------------------------------

22 Mar 1846  St Mary Islington
GREW Emma....full age....res. 13 Southampton St
Father  George GREW    urn maker

BANNISTER Frederick....full age.....res.   do....carpenter
Father   Charles BANNISTER   grocer

Witnesses   Thos (?) HOLLAND       E M THURLOW

                             -------------------

Parish Chapel St Pancras  1 Jul 1849
GREW Martha Naomi  full age   spinster

BANNISTER Alfred   full age......bachelor.......grocer........ res. Liverpool St
Father  Charles BANNISTER   dead

Witnesses  Richard JONES(?)     Sarah / Maria / Annie (?)  HARRIS

                                        ------------------------------------

For each family....use Ancestry Census records, Ancestry London BDM, GRO births... to locate their children. Account for children at each Census. If any are missing, look for them....they might be with GREW/MOWATT relatives....that is the purpose of finding them.

Note the witnesses at marriages....are they relatives.  Note addresses for marriages and baptisms. Use Ancestry London Electors....search with address, and year +/- 5 years to see what names appear.

All the Census records.....1841....1851.....1861....1871...1881....1891....1901........all of them.

Note the addresses where they are living, and who is living at the same address.  Residences are identified   by //...........//  Where you see //......./........// they are separate households at the one address. Look to see if people at same address might be related.

Look for GRO birth, and baptism for children to see if there are second given names.

You need to follow Sarah....some clues to find there.   

And where is Caroline Rhodes GREW?

Why does Mary Ann not sign the register when her siblings do sign?

Search 1841....1851....Census for GREW....MOWAT etc....born stoke Newington.


Reply #27
"....Ann 1811, Martha 1813, James George 1818, Sarah, Caroline 1821 & Emma."
.....who is Ann.......where do you see Ann?.



George GREW  marr. Elizabeth MOWATT, St Mary Stoke Newington 2 Mar 1809

I think there are three....four?.... witnesses....can anyone see these names?

It might be that you will not be able to identify the baptism for George GREW, married 1809, died 1879, but you will have filled out the family tree for this generation.

Do you see a death for Elizabeth GREW nee MOWATT?

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Wicklow / Re: William Headon of Baltinglass
« on: Wednesday 30 December 20 06:48 GMT (UK)  »


Can you please identify what BDM certificates you have.

Marriage record 18 Aug 1866....can you please list all the information on this document.

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Wicklow / Re: William Headon of Baltinglass
« on: Wednesday 30 December 20 06:23 GMT (UK)  »

Bendigo Advertiser 12 Jan 1884
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/88525251?
Obit for William HEADON......

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