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3547
Australia / Re: Caroline SANDFORD born abt 1832 TAS
« on: Monday 29 November 10 21:20 GMT (UK)  »


Hello Georgie
                             For the births before 1837 the source of information is church records only, no civil records made, for baptism. Records described in the Pioneer Indexes as baptism, are church records which also note the date of birth. Church baptism records would be the only public source of birth details for Caroline in 1832. If she does not appear in the Pioneer Index, it would seem that there is no baptism record for her.  Is it possible that there might have been the
'group" baptism for these children several years later, as often happened - and maybe in South Australia?.

Wivenhoe

3548
Australia / Re: SANDFORDS - Tasmania - shipping and census
« on: Monday 29 November 10 07:29 GMT (UK)  »


From Colonial Times Sat. 22 March 1845 - departure of B Sandford and F Sandford and four children from Launceston for Adelaide on "Henry"

From this database for arrivals of Sandford -
     http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html
they arrive on the "Henry" with four children - Charles, J(ohn?), Stephen named.

Tasmania Census Jan 1842 -  http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=10
The second page has breakdown on age/gender/born in colony/arrived free etc

might be useful for identifying the composition of this family.


The Colonial Tasmanian Family database has Benjamin Sandford b.1841 d. 1843 Launceston. He might be the male child, less than 2 years, on the census.
   http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8



3549
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with jobs on census
« on: Sunday 07 November 10 18:42 GMT (UK)  »


I think it is framesmith ....hosiery vendor. The job was associated with setting  up machinery in the hosiery trade.

3550
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re:Tas convict conduct record - remarks
« on: Saturday 06 November 10 02:59 GMT (UK)  »


The remarks section includes brief information - location and person - about this mans assignment for labour. Is that what you are wanting to know or is there a specific piece of information from this record that you are wanting ?

...Mr Henry Bilton, Glenorchy  ....23/6/43....12/8/43 Perth....30/12/43 A Maynes Sassafras Morven
2/3/44 Perth...5/3/44 PB (that is prisoners barracks) Launceston....14/4/44.......

This record also in case it is useful, plus next page has information about home - native place Birmingham, plasterer(guessing ?) mother Catherine, brother Alfred, 4 sisters Mary Ann Catherine Anna (guessing again). Housebreaking John Barratt Malsom (?)
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON14-1-12,240,20,C,80

3551
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Name of Vessel
« on: Saturday 30 October 10 19:51 BST (UK)  »


I think it is Nineveh

Wivenhoe

3552
Family History Beginners Board / Re: suggestions please
« on: Saturday 30 October 10 19:17 BST (UK)  »



You have probably done all of this anyway, and I do not know how ordinary the family name might be, but in case it is useful -

You have the names of the next generation, presumably from later census records. The year and birthplace of the firstborn might suggest the year and location of parents marriage.

How do the childrens names line up in order of birth? Names of first and second son might be a clue - maybe named for father and paternal grandfather.

What is this mans occupation?. If it is something more specific than labourer eg. watchmaker, saddler, do you see that in his sons, so maybe his own father is also that trade.

Widows often go to live with their daughters, and if they are around in a census year that can give you the daughter's likely maiden name (hoping that  the elderly mother had only one marriage) but you can be lucky. So if this man's wife outlives him and you follow her through later census records, that might be a means of getting her name - through the widowed mother who is living with her.

When you locate people in the census, have a look around on the later and earlier pages ie look around the town or village. Sometimes you can pick up an unexpected family connection.


Good luck

3553
Australia / Re: BOWDEN - NSW, VIC, SA & QLD
« on: Friday 29 October 10 05:20 BST (UK)  »

About the son who died on the voyage - do you have a name for him?. It might appear again for a later son born to them.

What names does Clara give her children - anything less usual?

3554
Australia / Re: Mary-Clare Hoosten Martin CLARKE
« on: Friday 29 October 10 04:20 BST (UK)  »

Additional to Mirian M 1899 Bathurst 1404/1899

are  -
James B 1892  6386/1892
Margaret J C 1896 1575/1896     parents are John and Mary

Margaret J C could be Marguerite....Jessie....Clare etc.

Have you ever seen any of these names written down in your family history eg. certificates, or are they only from memories and oral history?

3555
Australia / Re: Thoams Henry KEAN - Blackall
« on: Friday 22 October 10 16:29 BST (UK)  »


I wonder if this might a later child to the same woman -
Jane Kean b. 1881 mother Mary Kean, no fathers name   1881/C165

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