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For Sale / Wanted / Events / Wanted: RETURN OF PAPISTS Diocese of Chester 1767
« on: Saturday 26 May 12 19:23 BST (UK)  »
Hello

Does anyone have a copy of the book RETURNS OF PAPISTS Diocese of Chester 1767 Volume 1 published 1980 they would like to sell or does anyone know where I can get a copy of one?
It is the Diocese of Chester one that I am after not the England one.

Thanks
John

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Preston marriage St John's 1752
« on: Sunday 15 April 12 12:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Radcliff that's saved me a wasted trip to the records office.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Preston marriage St John's 1752
« on: Saturday 14 April 12 15:46 BST (UK)  »
Could someone please look up a marriage for me at St John's Preston.
I have the basic details of the marriage of John Hill and Jennet Kay on the 27th Dec 1752. I want to know if the occupation of John is mentioned or if anybody knows if that information was recorded at that time?
Many thanks
John

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Wigtownshire / John Devoy
« on: Tuesday 24 January 12 15:00 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to find any information on a John Devoy who died in Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire in 1842.

Stoneykirk death register
Devoy John,  age 40, died 14 April 1842, burial 16 April 1842.

There are a couple of Devoy families in the area according to the census records but I do not know if he is related to them.

I am wondering if he may be the father of John James Devoy born in Scotland about 1826 who is living in Seacombe Cheshire in the 1851 census whose father was called John.

If he is I would guess he was probably born in Ireland. The heads of the other two Devoy families in the area were also born in Ireland.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Lancashire / Re: Richard Wilson 1803 Coppull
« on: Friday 18 February 11 15:11 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Andrew,

Thanks for the info.
I don't know how long Richard was at the Seven Stars, the only reference to Seven Stars is the 1794 census but he was a Hucster or beer seller in the 1767 census.
He had a land valuation done in 1804 which refers to a House, Garden, Ford & Orchard and several fields adding up to 10 acres. This sounds like it could be the farm you mention. The beer part of it may have been a sideline or vice-versa.
It would be fantastic to think that the house they lived in is still there.

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Lancashire / Re: Richard Wilson 1803 Coppull
« on: Thursday 17 February 11 18:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I'm pretty sure now that Ann is the daughter of Richard & Margaret Wilson of Coppull and
that she married James Lucas in 1814.

Wrightington Hall RC.
James Lucas of Standish
Ann Wilson of Standish
Witnesses: James Wallwork & Elizabeth Wallwork (Her sister Dorothy's children)

Ann appears as a sponsor at several baptisms of her siblings children:

26 Dec 1797 Standish Hall
Dorothy Standish  RICHARD & ELIZABETH  (nee Wilson)   Witn: ANN WILSON

St Gregory's Weld Bank. 1821 James Walwork son of Marie Walwork.
Spons: John Walwork & Anna Lucas.  (Again sister Dorothy's children)

Marriage: 1 Sep 1823 St Wilfrids, Standish, Lancashire, England
James Whittle - of This Parish
Mary Wallworth - (X), of This Parish
    Witness: John Wallwork; James Lucas  (James her husband. Mary & John are Dorothy's children)

St Mary's, Euxton, Baptisms
MARY ANN WORDEN 22/10/1832 23/10/1832    Richard Ann (nee Wallwork)        Witn: James Lucas    Ann Lucas
MARY ANN WORDEN 9/10/1833 13/10/1833    Richard Ann (nee Wallwork)       Witn: James Lucas    Ann Lucas
I think these are Ann's children James & Ann.

She has two children from her marriage James and Ann.
James marries a Mary Ann and they appear as Sponsors at her son Richard Wilson's son Joshua's baptism:
Joshua Wilson b1854 Parents: Richard & Mary (Aspinall).     Godparents: James & Mary Ann Lucas
Richard and James would be half brothers.

From the 1851 census for Ann Lucas in Wrightington she was born in Coppull abt 1774 which fits right in with Richard & Margaret's family and the only child still at home in the 1794 census. She would be 20 and still classed as a minor.

Hope this all makes some sort of sense
I've put it all on my Ancestry.co.uk tree if you have access to it.






















 

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Lancashire / Re: Richard Wilson 1803 Coppull
« on: Wednesday 09 February 11 14:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Thanks for all the info Judi. I've had a quick look for John Borrell, but no luck so far.
He was a Chapman or itinerant seller so he may be hard to trace, but I'll keep on looking for him and Grizel.

Richard (b1730 in Wrightington) in my tree was also raised a Catholic.
In the 1767 census he was a Hucster (Ale seller) and in the 1794 census he was living at "Seven Stars" which I assume is a Pub.

Richard (b1803, Coppull) was also running a pub in the 1841 census and I saw a post on talk.standish.org.uk that said his greatgrandson also ran a pub called the "New Seven Stars", maybe there is a connection?

I got the following info at www.the.wilson.name (Highly recommended)

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1794 Coppull census conducted by the vicar of Standish

House or Farm: Seven Stars
Tenant: Richard Wilson
Children: 1
Total: 3
Religion: Rome

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Papists in Coppull 1767.

Wilson  Richd  Hucster 38
Wilson  Peggy   Wife of Richd.    37 
Wilson  Edward  Child 11 
Wilson  Betty  Child  5   
Wilson  Peggy  Child 4   
Wilson  Dorothy Child 2   
Wilson  Richd  Child 1

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1764 Census
Wilson Richard Margaret Children:  3 , Total: 5
 
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Elizabeth Wilson (Betty in 1767 census) is if I've got my info correct married to Richard Standish and their daughter Dorothy's
Godmother is listed as Ann Wilson (Baptism: 26 Dec 1797, Standish Hall). I wonder if this Ann is Richard's mother? She could be
the youngest child of Richard senior as there was a child living at home in the 1796 census and I can't account for who this
would be as the only surviving children are Elizabeth (married), Dorothy (married) and Edward (born 1756).

Regards
John


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Lancashire / Re: Richard Wilson 1803 Coppull
« on: Tuesday 08 February 11 20:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
Did anyone find out who Richard's parents were?
My ggggGM Dorothy Wilson was born in Coppull in 1765.
Her parents were Richard & Margaret who were still living there in the 1796 Coppull census. As they were the only Wilson family around at that time I wonder if Richard might be the son of one of Dorothy's brothers?
Thanks
John
 

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Ford Cemetery Liverpool Records Office Lookup -
« on: Friday 17 December 10 19:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Trueblue
I was down at the records office today and found this

Name                         Cemetery    Grave   Burial
Rose Ann Boardman   Yewtree      2A 66   12/8/1954
Joseph Bernard  "            "                "       5/12/1919

The date and cemetery are different but couldn't see a Rose Ann in Ford.

Best Wishes

John

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