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Kincardineshire / Re: David Jolly, St Cyrus, Master of the Countess of Airlie out of Montrose in 1847
« on: Thursday 17 October 13 13:20 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Valerie you've inspired me to keep going! I'm going to have hours (days?) of fun with those directories -scrolling through now saying to myself - yes know that David Jolly the baker funny how he's also married to a Diana (41 census)...
It is great seeing DJ in an 'official' document as captain of the Countess of Airlie - until now I've only had newspaper reports that stated him as the master...LLoyd's only list Brand as the master not DJ.  I'm sure it is him living in Montrose in 46/47 as their first child was born in Montrose but baptised in St Cyrus.
Question - the final listing of the Countess of Airlie in the 47/48 Lloyd's Reg - does not list a rating, port or route does this mean/indicate/hint at her being lost ?
Recap - I've now got him on the Venus 35-40, The Minerva in 40, the Jane in 43, the Victory 44/45 and the Countess of Airlie 46/47...I probably know more about the trips he made than his wife!
I thought I could avoid those Sherrets/Sheiret/Sherets looks like I'll have hunt them down...I was hoping for less names not more!
Thanks everyone for your help it's been great.
Jen

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Kincardineshire / Re: David Jolly, St Cyrus, Master of the Countess of Airlie out of Montrose in 1847
« on: Saturday 12 October 13 15:49 BST (UK)  »
Well now I know he was mate on the Venus from 1835 till 1839, then in 1840 a short stint as Master on the Minerva, then master of the Victory in 1844 till it was sold then master on the Countess of Airlie- then nothing  Totally at a dead end.  Does not help that in one listing alone he has his birth place as, Benholm, Montrose and St Cyrus! Looks like my family tree stops with a missing mariner - can't be the first time that's happened. Thanks everyone.
Jen

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Kincardineshire / Re: David Jolly, St Cyrus, Master of the Countess of Airlie out of Montrose in 1847
« on: Sunday 06 October 13 13:24 BST (UK)  »
Looby - thanks - bought some more credits at Findmypast - managed to look at one merchant seaman record and them all my credits vanished! Emailed them so hopefully a result on Monday mind the 1835/36 records are a little scant to say the least.  Thanks for that - I'm hoping one of the other two will show - 'lost at sea'...maybe I'll get lucky and one of the records will be from BT115 then I'll get to know his eye coulour!
Sy,
Yes probably related but until I get 'my' David Jolly sorted I can't confirm his parents - he is my total stumbliing block...
Thanks for the help...I'll let you know if I get anywhere on Monday...although really should get some other work done!
Jen


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Kincardineshire / Re: David Jolly, St Cyrus, Master of the Countess of Airlie out of Montrose in 1847
« on: Saturday 05 October 13 17:13 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Looby,
Yes I'm sure he died in 1847 on the Countess of Airlie what I can't establish is the fact the ship actually sank. It was last reported off Elsinore...the North Sea in October not the greatest place to be.  Diana gave birth to her third child in May 1847 also called David - tough times. Diana did go on to have a rather interesting life - her second husband accidentally drowned and he was a farmer not a mariner! I can't tell you what it was like to find a 'newish' grave stone at St Cyrus erected by her grand daughter (Diana Beattie) in memory of her mother Margaret Moncur (age 94) (nee Jolly) and her Grandmother Diana Rae (age 84).
Cheers
Jen

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Kincardineshire / Re: David Jolly, St Cyrus, Master of the Countess of Airlie out of Montrose in 1847
« on: Saturday 05 October 13 13:52 BST (UK)  »
Thanks,
yip checked them but nada...you would have thought the loss of a Montrose brigantine would have made the Scottish press even if it was doing a Riga/London run? I've also checked the English press but found nothing about the Countess of Airlie going down. David Jolly is my GGG grandfather and I need some way to confirm his parents were William and Catharine Shieret (Sheret?). If he died at sea and there's no more information fine I can finally stop and put my huge folders of family papers to bed.
Jen

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Kincardineshire / (*Completed with thanks*)David Jolly,St Cyrus, Master of the Countess of Airlie.
« on: Saturday 05 October 13 12:21 BST (UK)  »
OK this has taken years to get to this point so I'm going to give way too much info just in case anyone knows a little bit of the puzzle.
Known: David Jolly born 1811 married Diana Rae in 1837 in St Cyrus. (she's buried in St Cyrus graveyard)
Diana was daughter to William Rae (b 1778) and Margaret McBey (b1777)
David Jolly was a master mariner sailing out of Montrose (mainly) - through shipping news/Lloyd's lists etc I've got him master of the Victory (not that one!)1844 -1845 then the Countess of Airlie - I'm so sad I've got a list of all his runs - mainly to Riga and back with flax or wheat. Finally Nov 3rd 1847 (from the 'Montrose Review' but reported in an Aberdeen newspaper) "grave concern for the Countess of Airlie" - then nothing. I'm presuming he was lost at sea as Diana marries a George Nicol in 1857.

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