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Re: Did/Do Gipsy families keep the maternal surname?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 25 January 08 06:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rebekahm

Do you mean this family?

1871

In a caravan, North Trade Road, Battle, Sussex

Samson ROBERTS head 26 travelling hawker b.not known
Matilda ELLIOTT 26 b.Cupthorn Sussex
Henry ROBERTS son 8 b.Kent
Samson son 5 b.Hailsham Sussex
Mary A dau 4 b.Hailsham Sussex
Celia dau 2 b.Heathfield
Mary BRAZZEEL 16 b.East Grinstead Sussex

RG10/1036 folio 41 page 8

The daughter Mary Ann was baptised Tenterden, Kent 1866 and later married James RANSLEY of Kent.

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Re: Did/Do Gipsy families keep the maternal surname?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 25 January 08 18:48 GMT (UK) »
Yes thats them, Matilda is my direct blood ancestor.  I have Mary Ann's marriage but thankyou for thinking of me!  Im trying to establish who Matildas parents were, she died in 1881.
Casaubon (Geneva, London), Daulinge, Berners, McMullen (Nottingham), Tabb (Leics), Mycock (Derbys & Staffs), Gilbert (Notts), Price (s Wales), Krilovs/similar, gypsy Roberts, gypsy Clark, Bexell (Sussex), gypsy Elliott, Raven, Neligan (Co Kerry), Rymer, Newton (Hull).

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Re: Did/Do Gipsy families keep the maternal surname?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 31 January 08 15:28 GMT (UK) »
This is the reason we are having so much trouble with finding our rellies.

Only they cannot seem to make up their mind which one to choose. They have only been found togehter on the 1861 census.

The names are Nehemiah Ayres (abt 1826 ) and Susan Whitlock MN Norris (abt 1828)

They also seem to like the name Turner!!!

They are also known to change their first names. They had their children in Hampshire, Berkshire and Whiltshire. They eight children that we can find.

However we seem to have hit a brick wall. Did they ever marry?

Best of luck Tina

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Re: Did/Do Gipsy families keep the maternal surname?
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 08 November 09 23:56 GMT (UK) »
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I am also from Stone Family, essex. feel free to message me.


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Re: Did/Do Gipsy families keep the maternal surname?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 25 January 10 18:42 GMT (UK) »
hi, keith no probs with that name,we call our selfs travellers,but its confusing,what with new age. travellers irish,romanians etc, any way you may know all this now, but some times a gypsy woman would marry a gorgio man,/non gypsy. and would take or use her name.it was better for the children.to be known by a traveller name.rob g
romany history, mitchell family history. Earthenware. general . And horse. I dealers/hawkers. market trading.  lancashire. cumbria. staffordshire.scotland. paternal, side. wilson. lee. burton. miller .burnside. Smith. varey. howard. Jones. Lowther. Evens. Ward. Dale.maternal, side. miller cumbria, stewert. mitchell. allan. Ireland. donaghue, Kelly. Murphy. Young. Plus many others. .

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Re: Did/Do Gipsy families keep the maternal surname?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 25 January 10 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Yes thats them, Matilda is my direct blood ancestor.  I have Mary Ann's marriage but thankyou for thinking of me!  Im trying to establish who Matildas parents were, she died in 1881.

is the father's name not given on the marriage cert?
Monique
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Re: Did/Do Gipsy families keep the maternal surname?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 25 January 10 20:15 GMT (UK) »
MC8, Matilda didnt have a marriage cert, most likely didnt marry.  Its Matilda's parentage Im after.
Casaubon (Geneva, London), Daulinge, Berners, McMullen (Nottingham), Tabb (Leics), Mycock (Derbys & Staffs), Gilbert (Notts), Price (s Wales), Krilovs/similar, gypsy Roberts, gypsy Clark, Bexell (Sussex), gypsy Elliott, Raven, Neligan (Co Kerry), Rymer, Newton (Hull).

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Re: Did/Do Gipsy families keep the maternal surname?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 25 January 10 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Everyone,
Good to see this thread jerking back to life after a long pause, there's obviousy plenty of mileage in it yet!
Cambridgeshire Parish Records are full of the names of families who briefly stayed, had their children baptised, or married, then moved on.  Conscientious vicars do tend to note where the individuals came from previously, particularly if it was from another county - I've been able to help one or two Rootschatters recently with such details...
Regards, keith

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Re: Did/Do Gipsy families keep the maternal surname?
« Reply #26 on: Monday 01 February 10 10:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone,

i am from a gypsy family and am also trying to trace my ancesters, I know my Grandmother was Florence Emily stanford and her husband was George stanford they lived in the tunbridge wells area and george was a hawker. Kerry i think we may have some kind of connection??