Gabriel`s to Massetusetts

[gabba]

Charles Gabriel born 1873 Liverpool England & his older brother Millington James Gabriel b1870 can be found in America in early 1900`s they both travelled via Belfast Ireland
I have no evidence of them traveling to America, I have looked on Ellis Island & Castle Garden web sites!

I found Millington James Gabriel (JNR)Born 1893 or James as he became to be known on Ellis Island as he returned to England in 1915 to serve in the first world war then returns with his new wife his cousin Ethel  in 1920

But still can`t find any info on the brothers leaving for America if you can advise in anyway please do!

Sorry found Charles but no other family members i.e. wife Clara or children

[Genealiza]

Gabba, I've located James and family in 1920.  Will list the family below.  I'll keep trying to find them and his brother in the other censuses.  ----Genealiza


1920   Massachusetts   Norfork   2nd Ward   Quincy
Series T625    Roll 723   Page 174

40  S. Walnut St.   Dwell # 177   Family # 183

Gabriel, James, head, rents home, male, white, 49, marr,
                        immig 1908, PA, can read, write, Eng, Eng,
                        Eng, can speak English, ship fitter, shipyard,
                        worker

 --------, Clara, wife, female, white, 50, marr. immig 1908,
                        alien, can read, write, Eng, Eng, Eng, can
                        speak English

 --------, Ellena (?), dau, female, white, 24, single, immig
                        1908, alien, can read, write, Eng, Eng, Eng,
                         can speak English, Vamp folder (?), shoe
                        factory, worker

----------, George, son, male, white, 19, single, immig 1908,
                        alien, can read, write, Ire, Eng, Eng, can
                        speak English, helper ship fitter, shipyard,
                        worker

----------, Clara, dau, female, white, 17, single, immig 1908,
                        alien, Ire, Eng, Eng, can speak English,
                        vamp folder (?), shoe factory, worker

----------, Margaret, dau, female, white, 12, single, immig
                        1908, alien, attends school, can read, write,
                         Ire, Eng, Eng, can speak English

----------, Charles, son, male, white, 9 6/12, single, attends
                         school, can read, write, Mass, Eng, Eng

---------, Isabell, dau, female, white, 7 8/12, single, attends
                         school, can read, write, Mass, Eng, Eng

Pitts, Alice, dau, female, white, 29, single, immig 1908, nat
                         1912, can read, write, Eng, Eng, Eng, can
                          speak English, (?)  , shoe factory, worker

------, Florence, dau, female, white, 7 single, attends school,
                          can read, write, Mass, Mass, Eng, can
                           speak English

[Genealiza]

Sorry, that should be Norfolk County, not Norfork--Genealiza

[Genealiza]

Gabba,  I just found the 1910 census for the above family which should fill in some of the blanks.----Genealiza


1910   Massachusetts    Norfolk     Ward 1 Quicny
Series T 624    Roll 609   Page 169   Date:  25 Apr 1910

4 Wild(e?) Place    Dwell # 240   Family # 329


Gabriel, James, head, male, white, 40, marr 1, 19 years,
                        Eng, Eng, Eng, immig 1908, PA, speaks
                        English, riviter, shipyard, worker, can read,
                        write, rents home

---------- Clara, wife, female, white, 41, marr 1, 19 years,
                        mother of 11 children/ 8 living, Eng, Eng,
                        Eng, speaks English, can read, write

-----------Alice, M, dau, male (female), white, 18, single, Eng,
                        Eng, Eng, immig 1908, speaks English,
                        vamper, shoe shop, worker, can read, write

-----------Millington, J, son, male, white, 17, single, Eng, Eng,
                       Eng, immig 1908, speaks English, chipper,
                       shipyard, worker, can read, write

-----------Ellen, dau, female, white, 16, single, Eng, Eng, Eng
                      immig 1908, speaks English, helper, shoe
                      shop, worker, can read, write

----------Rose A, dau, female, white, 12, single, Eng, Eng,
                      Eng, immig 1908, speaks Eng, can read,
                      write, attends school

---------George, son, male, white, 9, single, Eng, Eng, Eng,
                      immig 1908, attends school

----------Clara, dau, female, white, 7, single, Eng, Eng, Eng,
                      immig 1908, attends school

----------Margaret, dau, female, white, 2, single, Ire, Eng,
                     Eng, immig 1908

---------Charles J, son, male, white, 3/12, single, Mass, Eng,
                     Eng

[Genealiza]

Gabba, Here's the 1910 census for James' brother, Charles.-----Genealiza


1910  Massachusetts     Norfolk    Ward 2   Quincy
Series T624   Roll 609   Page 210

16 Main St    Dwell # 151    Family # 173


Gabriel, Charles F, head, male, white, 36, marr 1, 17 yrs,
                        Eng, Eng, Eng, immig 1904, PA, speaks
                        English, boilermaker, shipyard, worker, can
                        read, write, rents home

---------- Elizabeth, wife, female, white, 39, marr 1, 17 yrs,
                       mother of 7 children/4 living, Eng, Eng, Eng,
                       immig 1907, speaks English, matron, rail-
                       road, worker, can read, write

----------- Alfred, son, male, white, 14, single, Ire, Eng, Eng,
                       immig 1907, speaks Englis, can read, write,
                       attends school

-----------Edmund, son, male, white, 13, single, Ire, Eng,
                       Eng, immig 1907, speaks English, can read,
                       write, attends school

-----------Edward, son, male, white, 11 single, Ire, Eng, Eng,
                       immig 1907, speaks English, can read, write,
                       attends school

----------Henry, son, male, white, 7, single, Ire, Eng, Eng,
                       immig 1907, attends school

[gabba]

Genealiza
Thanks for the info but I have found them on US census ect
Thanks for that!
I`m trying to find records of James seniors emigration records or even Charles family as I can only find Charles Frederick Gabriel yet his wife & 4 children are no where to be found on such as Ellis Island?

Thanks again

Gabba

[eillo]

Gabba

Ellis Island is ONLY for ships coming into New York. Your family may have arrived at a different port. Do you have evidence to them coming into NY? If not, you need to search elsewhere!

Have you searched indexes for other ports? They are microfilmed. you can get a list of film numbers (NARA & FHC) at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nara_indexbyport.shtml

Scroll down to the state you want and click on the link,then find the film # you need

Have you looked for naturalization records? That 1910 census says Charles has his first papers  and so does James. Go to http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ for help with online links AND research guides that tell you how to get those records offline.

You may be in luck because naturalization petitions after 1906 have information that has been verified and matched to an immigration record. An immigrant who arrived after June 29, 1906, could not naturalize until the government located their immigration record (a passenger list). So you will also find a  Certificate of Arrival  and this will have complete details as to ship name, date of arrival and arrival port.

[eillo]

Here's an early Christmas present   You can get the full passenger list by sending for it from FHC or NARA. That will give you who he was going to in USA, his intended state of residence, where he last lived, his occupation, etc

Charles Frederick Gabriel Age: 29 years  5  months, arrived at Boston, Massachusetts   on 22 Oct 1904  on the CRETIC from  Liverpool, England 
 
You've got an exact date now so you get a lookup from NARA or get the filmed list in to your nearest Family History Centre. Go here http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nara_indexbyport.shtml and look for the link for BOSTON film #s.

Enjoy!

[eillo]

Okay this one's from Santa...

 James & Clara Gabriel arrived 18 Oct 1931 from Liverpool, England   in Boston Mass on the  Britannic

They're on the "List of US Citizens" so you know they naturalized before 1931. If you get the list, it will have more details including WHERE and WHEN they naturalized! Then you can get those nat papers to find out when they came in the very first time (and where)

Obviously not their first arrival, looks like your family were quite the travellers! It also seems your Charles' had been in America before his 1904 arrival too.