1851 Census Lookup Langholm Dumfries

[VICTORIA]

Would someone look for

James Hope and Janet Hope 1851 census
Langholm Dumfries Scotland please.

James approx 20s -30s years of age.
Janet same.

They married 25/02/1839 Langholm Dumfries Scotland

Victoria

[apanderson]

Hi Victoria,

I don't have the 1851 Cencus but I thought you might be interested in the following three births (British Vital Records)

HOPE, James Johson
Born 9 Jan 1840   
Christened 26 Jan 1840
Langholm, Dumfries, Scotland
Parents; James HOPE & Janet YEOMAN

HOPE, Anthony
Born 24 Aug 1841   
Christened 12 Sep 1841
Langholm, Dumfries, Scotland
Parents; James HOPE & Jannet YEOMAN

HOPE, Elizabeth
Born 17 Jul 1843
Langholm, Dumfries, Scotland
Parents; James HOPE & Janet YEOMAN

Hope this helps,

Anne.

[Nuspy]

This link will take you to the 1851 Census for Dumfriesshire, Kirkcudbrightshire & Wigtownshire:

http://www.dumgal.gov.uk/historicalindexes/census.aspx

[VICTORIA]

Ann,Nuspy.

Thanks to both of you for your help. I had birth of Isabella Irving Hope
Birth 17/04/1853.
Father James Hope
Mother Janet Yeoman.

The surname Irving has been passed down the family line for years and we dont know where it originated from. Still looking for origin. Must be before these dates. Will carry on search.

Victoria

[apanderson]

Hi Victoria,

I think this might be Janet's birth (she was the sixth hild of seven born to this couple):

YEOMAN, Janet
Born 12 Feb 1818
Langholm, Dumfries, Scotland
Parents; Anthony YEOMAN & Catharine STOTHART

I could only find one James born in Dumfries around the same time as Janet
He was the fifth child (of five) born to this couple:

HOPE, James
Christened27 Jan 1814
Graitney or Gretna, Dumfries, Scotland
Parents George HOPE & Agnes ANDERSON

No sign of the Irving name though . . . ?

If you want details of either the above Janet or James' siblings, just let me know.

Anne

[VICTORIA]

Hi Ann will look through my notes and get back to you. Thanks for further Information your a star.


Victoria  

[johking]

Reading this with interest...

Just something to consider. I have one or two instances of people in my family being named after individuals who were friends, rather than actual family members. This especially seems to have happened in large families when they might have run out of family names!

I would have a go at seeing if you can find an Isabella Irving around the time of her birth. In fact - if you look in the 1851 census for Dumfries and Galloway (link in Nuspy's message) you will find 5 Isabella Irvings living in Langholm that look to fit the bill. (Search for Irving, Isabella and put Langholm into the drop-down box).

You can then enter the Household No for each individual into the search form (along with just the parish, ie Langholm) and have a look at the families and decide which might fit the bill. One family is living on the same street as your family so it might be them...

I'm pretty sure that is where your Irving name has come from as your Isabella is born in 1853, just 2 years after this census.

I found that the 16th child of one of my ancestors was called after the local minister's 12 year old daughter.

All the best

Jo

[VICTORIA]

Excellent advice Jo, will do as you suggest. Hope this solves family riddle.

Victoria   

[johking]

You are lucky that you have the census to refer to at just the right time...

I only found out about the minister's daughter because she happened to die young and her name caught my eye as I was looking through the parish registers. I had wondered where the family had come up with such a fanciful name as Jane Eleonora among all the Marys and Elizabeths!

The other one I know of in my family - Archibald Ritchie CURRIE - was easy because we have letters referring to his father's great friend Archibald Ritchie.

However, I have yet to solve my own little mystery. My ggg grandfather was James Charters CURRIE and I am convinced there is a James Charters out there...

I think it is rather nice to think that your forebear was called after someone who was obviosly a special friend to the family and therefore probably a rather nice person.

Jo