please help!

[bevjane]

thanks tanya, thats great! how do you get all the info?

[SandraC]

This is getting like the monthly challenge!

Jan-Mar 1852 Dover Vol 2a Pg 778
Marriage Richard Thomas & Caroline Amelia Stokes

Oct-Dec 1874 Dover Vol 2a pg 1551
Richard W W Thomas & Mary Ann Paine

SandraC

[Tati]

I have access to different census returns.
As for the 1881 census, it is free to search at either www.familysearch.org or www.ancestry.co.uk

Familysearch also has the IGI - International Genealogical Index which might be useful. You may find the different births or marriages on there.

For the time frame 1840-1910, FreeBMD (please just google it - I never seem to manage to insert the correct link) will be useful. It is not complete - the 1860s, especially, as not well covered - but very helpful.

Tanja          

[bevjane]

tanya, how did you find the thomas family on the 1901 census? as youve listed all the initials for the childern, and i need to know their names as we think the youngest child was called grace. my mum thinks that there was an auntie grace and the last initial youve listed is G. thanks, bev.

[Tati]

1901
RG13/336 Folio 51 pages 53 & 44
Mile End Old Town, London
43 Maplin Street
Richard Thomas, head, 46, Commercial Clerk, b. Dalston
Mary, wife, 52, b. Kent Wye
Charlotte, dau, unm, 22, Shirt Maker, b. Essex West Ham
Herbert, son, unm, 21, Dock labourer, d. West Ham
Robert, dau (!), unm, 18, Shirtmaker, b. West Ham
Rebecca, son (!), 14, b. West Ham
Anne, dau, 12, b. West Ham

I think Robert is actually Rebecca and vice versa if you have proof she was born in 1882.
I suggest you have a look at FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ (I'm not sure at all this link will work) to check possible births. Alternatively, www.ancestry.co.uk also has the FreeBMD database (although updated less regularly than FreeBMD) - they call it England and Wales Civil registration index.
   
There is no other child at home - so either staying elsewhere or dead.

Hope this helps

Tanja    

[Tati]

I see there is indeed a birth registered in September quarter 1890 for a Grace Thomas , West Ham, volume 4a page 104, which could fit ... but there is also a death in Sep 1891 for a little Grace age 1.
Can't see a match for her in the 1901 census.

Tanja 

 

 

[bevjane]

thanks tanya!
on the 1891 census, there is a G daughter aged 10mths, but on the 1901 there is no listing, so perhaps she died?

[bevjane]

the family lived at 2 philip st in 1891, and at 43 maplin st in 1901.

[Tati]

Yes, that's right.

I'm just trying to find out their names at birth registration:
 
C A (Charlotte) can't find a birth for sure 
H E (Herbert) could be Herbert Enzor, Dec 1889 West Ham 4a 70 
R (Rebecca)   
C H: There are several Charles Henry born around 1885 in West Ham 
R A (Robert) could be Robert Arthur  June 1886 4a 190
A H (Anne) H could be Annie Haddon March 1889 4a 181 
G (=Grace?) 

Just guessing, in fact.

Tanja