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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 13:06 GMT (UK) »
In 1881 I've been unable to find a Mary or Mary Ann Townsend born Worcester around the right time. There is a Fanny Townsend but she is born 1865 in Brewood Staffs but living in Worcester with Charles and Kate Gibbs listed as wife's sister ??? :-\
In 1891 there is a Fanny Smith born 1870 Worcester and living in Worcester but need SKS to check the image to see if she is with a William a scaffolder- no Mary or Mary Ann Smith born Worcester in 1891 that I can see.
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi
The marriage was in 1891 not 98. So she would have been married - would expect more children older than Joseph but they might have died.
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 13:12 GMT (UK) »
Now 1871
No Mary or Mary Ann, only Fanny is born 1857 Worcester living Staffordshire ??? If this is the same lady (and haven't found another but someone else might) then she is confused about age and birthplace - need images checking for mistranscriptions and family details- anyone around who could do that please?
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Posted by: janan 


The marriage was in 1891 not 98. So she would have been married - would expect more children older than Joseph but they might have died.


Sorry janan
I was not reading it right. Yes you would have expected more children. I am going to check the parish records again, if nothing then check other parish's near Angel row
my head is spinning
   
Smith Worcestershire
Pardoe  Hartlebury Belbroughton Worcestershire
Hughes Bromsgrove Droitwich
Harris, Milton, Franklin, Grafton Gloucestershire,  
Harris, EmleyCastle
Townsend Bath Somerset
Bird worcestershire


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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jacqui
Let us know what you discover. Hope someone comes along who can check the census entries - I need to know ;D
Jan ;)

To recap the entries we need checking are:
1871
Fanny Townsend born Worcester  ?1857 living in Staffordshire
1881
Fanny Townsend born Brewood Staffs livng in Worcester with Charles and Kate Gibbs
1891
Fanny Smith born Worcester 1870 living in Worcester

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 14:54 GMT (UK) »
ok not sure if i understand you correctly. if you are asking for 1871 look up for fanny townsend then here it is-
living at wolverhampton in staffordshire 1871-
thomas prosser  aged30  born worcestershire
elizabeth aged 29yrs born manchester
children -
alfred 8yrs
emily jane 3yrs
mary.c 7 months
fanny townsend neice born worcester aged 14yrs nurse girl
SOURCE INFO-RG10/2937
FOLIO-120
PAGE-13
regards
alli
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 15:02 GMT (UK) »
the fanny smith on the 1891 cencus in worcester is married to a frederick not a william.
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durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 15:06 GMT (UK) »
the 1881 looks like this-
living at james street,worcester
charles gibbs 21yr old master baker
kate 26yrs
fanny townsend visitor aged 16yrs next to this it has written wifes sis but then has a line through it.
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 15:46 GMT (UK) »

Not any further forward then jacqui :D


Alli can you see any other Mary/Mary Ann/Fanny Townsend (Smith by 1891) born in Worcester circa 1869 ?

She has to be somewhere ???
Jan ;)
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge