Jenner. Standish

[Candolim_Imp]

It's a long shot, I know... but does anyone have access to the Standish church records?

I'm researching the Jenners who moved to Cheetham, Manchester in the latter half of the 19thC, but I know they are descended from Thomas Jenner, born c1817 in Standish. I've found a tree online which identifies all the Standish Jenners in the census returns EXCEPT Thomas.

Basically, there seems to have been 2 married couples of the name having children around the right time, Nathaniel Jenner and Elizabeth Martin, and William Jenner & Sarah Gingell.

Nathaniel and Elizabeth had a son called Thomas in 1825, who died in 1849, so they can't have had a son called Thomas in 1818.

Sarah Gingell/Jenner was living in Hardwicke in 1851, as was Thomas, which does provide more circumstantial evidence that she was his mother.

The problem is that the other research online doesn't identify his as William & Sarah's son (though one has him in the ged file as an unconnected individual)... and I can't rule out the possibility that he might be an illegitimate son of one of the Standish Jenner sisters (perhaps not being baptised as a result, explaining the inability to place him).

Can anyone help at all? I'd be very grateful

Impy

[Nicky]

Hi

I think this could add to your idea that Thomas was the son of William and Sarah, unfortunately though the 1841 does not give relationships. Please also remember that the ages in the 1841 are rounded down to the nearest 5.

1841 census

Sarah Jenner, age 60, born in county
Daniel Jenner, age 25, butcher, born in county
Thos Jenner, age 20, tailor, born in county

Hardwick PB
Hardwick
HO 107 0370
folio 19 page 14

I hope this helps

Nicky

[allibaker]

taken from the NB1-
buried at standish st nicholas-
william jenner aged 62yrs buried 1st july 1832
sarah jenner aged 75yrs buried 2nd june 1856.
other jenner burials at standish-
ann aged 66yrs buried 23rd march 1827
hester aged 57yrs buried 9th june 1856
john aged 56yrs buried 17th aug 1846
louisa aged 4 months buried 26th june 1849
nathaniel aged 59yrs buried 12th oct 1859
samuel aged 39yrs buried 19th april 1859
samuel aged 68yrs buried 22nd dec 1859
thomas aged 24yrs buried 21st june 1849
REGARDS
ALLI

[Candolim_Imp]

Ally, many thanks for the burial info, I will add those to the info I have... and Nicky... what can I say? That's perfect! We know Thomas was a tailor, so that definitely confirms the family relationship.

Now I can confirm his place amongst these Standish Jenners, I'm able to latch into established research which takes this family back to the Elizabethan era.

We'd always wanted to find the link to Edward Jenner (who invented the vaccination), though we quickly found that there was no direct descendancy (as none of Edward's sons had children), but this line does go back to Francis Jenner, whose 2nd son was named Ansel (born 1610). Edward Jenner also has an ancestor of the same name, born 1625, so it seems almost certain that the 2 Ansels were closely related, possibly cousins named after a common grandfather.

Many thanks to you both for the information.

Impy

[ozeb]

I have some of the Standish parish records on microfiche and can confirm that William and Sarah Jenner are the parents of Thomas Jenner. He was christened on the 19th April 1818.

[ozeb]

Standish baptisms:-
Date                  Forename  Parents                   Surname
25 Feb 1706   Nathaniell   Daniell & Elizabeth   Jenner   
30 Jun 1717   Robert   Robert & Elizabeth   Jenner   
21 Jan 1719   Elizabeth   Robert & Elizabeth   Jenner   
21 Apr 1723   Thomas   Robert & Elizabeth   Jenner   
19 Mar 1723   Mary           Robert & Elizabeth     Jenner   
10 Oct 1728   Ann           Robert & Elizabeth   Jenner
Standish burials:-
Date                  Forename  Surname     Parents                  Notes
7 Feb 1717   Stephen   Jenner   Josiah & Jane      From Morton Valence
20 Oct 1719   Ester           Jenner                         Wife of Josiah
3 May 1723   Thomas   Jenner   Robert & Elizabeth      
23 Jul 1727   Esther   Jenner                         Wife of Mr. Stephen of Frampton upon Severn
27 Feb 1728   Elizabeth   Jenner                        Wife of Robert
18 Apr 1732   Mr. Josiah   Jenner         
24 Jul 1732   Mr. Robert   Jenner   Mr. Josiah      
17 Mar 1740   Thomas   Jenner   Josiah & Jane      
9 Sep 1743   Josiah   Jenner         
6 Oct 1745           Jane           Jenner                         Wife of Josiah
28 Jan 1747   Stephen   Jenner                        From Frampton-upon-Severn
3 Nov 1750   Josiah   Jenner         
7 Sep 1754   Mary           Jenner                        Wife of Vincent
29 Jan 1764   Vincent   Jenner         
24 Dec 1780   Robert   Jenner                        From Coldthrop
Standish marriages:-
Date                        Groom                His parish                 Bride                  Her parish
2 Feb 1707   Jenner    Daniel   Haresfield      Taylor      Sarah    Standish   
15 Oct 1713   Dangerfield Stephen   Randwick      Jenner      Hester    Standish         
6 Jun 1715           Jenner    Robert   Standish      Denton      Elizabeth Standish         
29 Apr 1739   Jordan    Henry   Harsfield      Jenner      Elizabeth Standish         
30 Jun 1751   Jenner    Daniel   Stonehouse   Bird              Ann    Randwick         
10 Apr 1780   Jenner    John                         Chamberlain Ann         
15 Nov 1781   Huntly    Thomas   Hascomb      Jenner      Mary    Standish      

[Candolim_Imp]

Sorry I overlooked the first mesage. These are wonderful, thank you so much. I'm off to check out how these fit into the tree

[LittleAcorn]

Hello All
I am also descended from Jenners of Standish, Haresfield etc. My gt gt grandmother was Suzannah Martin Jenner, daughter of Nathaniel (b.1790) and Elizabeth Martin.
The children I have listed for them were:

Nathaniel Jenner 1821 – 1905 married Jane Bishop*
Samuel Jenner 1821 –
Edwin Jenner 1822 –
Henry Jenner 1826 –
Elizabeth Jenner Jnr 1828 –
SUZANNAH MARTIN JENNER 1829 – 1909 married Thomas Bishop*
Martin Jenner 1830 –
Charles Jenner 1835 –

NOTES: * Jane and Thomas were siblings, dau/son of John Bishop and Elizabeth (Morgan ?)

If there is any information to prove or disprove my thinking that Nathaniel's father was Thomas Jenner (B. abt 1761) and his father was Robert .... ... I would be grateful of any pointers!

ALSO for Nathaniel (b.1790) I have his death as 1849 not 1859 and Elizabeth is listed as a widow in the 1851 census which would confirm this.
although thank you to Alli for the other information which I found very useful.

taken from the NB1-
buried at standish st nicholas-
william jenner aged 62yrs buried 1st july 1832
sarah jenner aged 75yrs buried 2nd june 1856.
other jenner burials at standish-
ann aged 66yrs buried 23rd march 1827
hester aged 57yrs buried 9th june 1856
john aged 56yrs buried 17th aug 1846
louisa aged 4 months buried 26th june 1849
> nathaniel aged 59yrs buried 12th oct 1859 < prob 1849.  (born 1790)
samuel aged 39yrs buried 19th april 1859
samuel aged 68yrs buried 22nd dec 1859
thomas aged 24yrs buried 21st june 1849
REGARDS
ALLI

[Victor Harvey]

Hi Impy,
I haven't looked at subsequent replies received so far, but would like to add my findings, which I hope will be of some help?
Source: Gloucestershire Family History Society (GFHS) Baptism Index, 1813-1837:-
Thomas JENNER, son of William & Sarah, a Butcher of Standish, baptised at St Nicholas, Standish, 19th April, 1818.
Daniel JENNER, son of William & Sarah, a Butcher of Haresfield, baptised at St Peter, Haresfield, 11th December 1814.
Sarah JENNER, daughter of William & Sarah, a Butcher of Hardwicke, baptised at St Nicholas, Hardwicke, 16th June 1822.
I found NO trace of William & Sarah's marriage.
Victor