1841 / 1851 / 1861 Census Lookup - Robertson

[wmather]

I am looking for James Robertson who would be around 22 years old in 1841.  He married Agnes Munro in 1840 in Dumbarton. 
I have a child Isabella who according to her marriage certificate in 1875 was 22 years old, making her birth in 1853.  However her death record in 1892 shows her as being 34 years of age, making her birth in 1858. 
I have two other children - James born in 1856 and Agnes born in 1855.  All three children were born in Dumbarton.

Any info on this family would be appreciated.

William

[apanderson]

Hi William,

Do you mean that you think that Isabella, James and Agnes were the children of James and Agnes?

If so, do you think they had more children prior to Isabella (born 1853/58) or Agnes (born 1855)? It's unusual for a first child to be born more than a couple of years after the coupl'e marriage.

Anne

[moscan]

I am afraid I don't have access to the 1841 or 1851 but here are the details for the 1861 census I think this is your family:


Address is 4 Church Street, Dunbarton.

James Robertson, aged 43 Operative mason born in perthshire

Agnes Robertson aged 38 wife, born in Dunbarton

Mary Robertson aged 17 daughter born in Dunbarton a domestic servant

Christina Robertson age 15 born in Dunbarton, a domestic servant

Isabella Robertson aged 9 born in Dunbarton, a scholar

Duncan Robertson aged 4 born in Dunbarton

Janet Munrow aged 2 a Relative born in dunbarton


Best wishes
Mo

[wmather]

[quote ]

Do you mean that you think that Isabella, James and Agnes were the children of James and Agnes?

If so, do you think they had more children prior to Isabella (born 1853/58) or Agnes (born 1855)? It's unusual for a first child to be born more than a couple of years after the coupl'e marriage.

Anne

Hi Anne,

Isabella's marriage and death records indicate that she is the daughter of James Robertson and Agnes Munro(e).  The other two children were found on IGI and are submitted records.  I am curious why there is such a large timespan from their marriage and Isabella's birth, as she appears to be the earliest.

William

[wmather]

[quote ]
 I think this is your family:


Address is 4 Church Street, Dunbarton.

James Robertson, aged 43 Operative mason born in perthshire

Agnes Robertson aged 38 wife, born in Dunbarton

Mary Robertson aged 17 daughter born in Dunbarton a domestic servant

Christina Robertson age 15 born in Dunbarton, a domestic servant

Isabella Robertson aged 9 born in Dunbarton, a scholar

Duncan Robertson aged 4 born in Dunbarton

Janet Munrow aged 2 a Relative born in dunbarton


Best wishes
Mo

Hi Mo,

Thanks, this looks a strong possibility.  I will check this out.  I have Agnes Robertson born 1818 but that could be wrong.  Her maiden name was Munro(e) and her mother's name was Janet which would explain the relative aged 2. 

The date for Isabella would tie in with the marriage record and the older sisters would explain the time gap from her parents marriage in 1840.

Many thanks,

William

[wmather]

Hi Mo,

This looks like the right family.  I have found a James Robertson born in Dull, Perthshire in 1817.  His parents were James Robertson and Janet Moncrief.  This would tie in with their son James Moncrief Robertson who was born in Dumbarton in December 1856.  This would have made him 4 years old at the time of the census.  Could he have been a twin to Duncan ? 
I wonder where Agnes (6) and James (4) have gone?

My records also confirm that James Robertson was a Mason Journeyman.

Many thanks

William

 

[moscan]

James Montcrief Robertson died aged August 14 1882 not married son of James Robertson and Agnes Monroe..

Agnes Robertson married James Storie and died in 1883 of TB aged 28

Will keep looking for them on the 1861 census


Best wishes

Mo

[moscan]

OOPS------------    mea culpa

I left out Agnes aged 6 born in Dunbarton from the 1861 census...

I missed her totally wasn't till I went back to the image... sorry

Mo

PS Found the family again on the 1871 this time james is there supposedly aged 12... hmmmm am totally confused now...

Mo

[wmather]

Many thanks again Mo.

Was Duncan shown on the 1871 Census?  What age is shown as? 
You said that he was 4 in 1861 so that would have made his birth 1856/7.  However the census was in April 1861 and James was born December 1856. So either the age is wrong or James and Duncan were twins.  I can find no sign of Duncan on Scotlandspeople website between 1840 and 1861 born in Dumbarton.

The Janet Munrow age 2 you mentioned appears to be the Daughter of Agnes Robertson's brother Alexander Munro.

William