Owen/Owens family 1841 census

[aderyn]

Does anyone have any information on Edward and Elizabeth Owens or Owen and family from Radnorshire possibly around Abbey cwm hir.
At that time they would have been aged around 41 and 39 respectively.

[rhys]

Hello Aderyn

1841 Radnorshire
HO1O7 1455 F 7 P 8
Abbeycwmhir
GOLLON
SHOP
all OWENS
Edward 40 ag lab y
Elizabeth 40 n
Elizabeth 12 y
Jane 10 y
Mary 8 y
Margaret 6 y
Ann 3 y
Thomas 4 months y

Rhys

[aderyn]

Rhys,

It looks like you've come up with the goods again on this one.

Elizabeth the younger was my 2x g-grandmother she married Edward Meredith on December 24th 1845, so that would put her at 17 at the most, providing her age is correct.
It would be interesting to the 1851 census to see if she had left the family home.

Thank you Rhys you have been a great help to me.

[rhys]

Hi Aderyn
KMO has provided the 1851 census details for Elizabeth in your Meredith query
the 1851 details for Edward and family are

1851 ABBEY CWMHIR
HO107 2494 17 11
Gollon
Smiths Shop
Edward Owens h m 50 ag labourer RAD Nantmel
Elizabeth Owens w m MONT Llandinam
Margaret Owens d u 16 RAD Abbey cwmhir
Ann Owens  d u 11  RAD Abbeycwmhir
John Owens s u 5 RAD Abbeycwmhir

The inhabitants of the next house may be a connection
Gollon
BLINDMANS HOUSE
Edward Owens  h m 77 Chelsea pensioner 1/2 Pay RAD Abbeycwmhir
Maria 0wens  w m 71 GLO Youtanderage?
Elizabeth Owens d u 39 Sicily ? Pharo
Josia Owens gs u 10 RAD Abbeycwmhir
Edward Owens gs u 6 RAD Abbeycwmhir
Mariah Owens 6 gd u RAD Abbeycwmhir

The only place in Gloucestershiire i can think of for Youtanderage is Wooton Under Edge

Rhys

[aderyn]

Rhys,

That's absolutely fabulous, Elizabeth junior had left the household, which complies with her earlier marriage.

Their neighbours sound interesting, maybe they are Edward's parents and family?

Next thing is for me to take a trip up to Abbey cwm hir and see what if anything is left, also a browse around the local churchyard wouldn't be a bad idea.

Thanks again for everything Rhys I couldn't have managed without your help.

John

[cherryg]

Hi - I just found your rootsweb conversation of 2005 when searching the net for refs to Blindmans Cottage, Abbeycwmhir. If you're still active on this site, please let me know if you're still interested in the Edward Owens, the Chelsea Pensioner, who was living next door to your Edward Owens in the smith's shop. He was my 3x gt grandfather, and I've done a lot of research on the family tree. I don't know how the family connects with your Edward next door, but we might find a common link if we could compare trees. I also have photos of the old smithy and Blindmans Cottage.
Cherry

[baracws]

cherryg,

Thank you for your very kind offer, but I have since discovered that my Edward Owen was at Ffynnon-garreg near Bwlch-y-Sarnau in 1841 and he died during the same decade.

Regards, baracws

[cherryg]

Hi there - Sorry your family didn't live next door to mine!
I do however have an Edward and Margaret Owen of Ffynongarrig with children David and Sarah, who were both baptised Feb 10th 1824. Edward's occupation is given as 'labourer'. Are these likely to be your relatives? There seems to have been a joint christening on that day along with my Edward and Maria's youngest child, Josiah, and another couple, and there are indications from the record that all three families were connected.
Cherry

[baracws]

cherryg,

Thanks for that very interesting information. From the 1841 census.
Radnorshire 1841
ABBEYCWMHIR

HO107 1455 ED 7 F 9 P11
GOLLON
Fennongarreg  (Ffynnongarreg)
OWEN, Edward,  50, Farmer, No
OWEN, Elizabeth,  45, Y
REES, Sarah,  25, F.S., Y
REES, Hanah,  3, Y
REES, Thomas,  1, Y

So it's possible that Elizabeth was Edwards second wife. Edwards daughter, also named  Elizabeth was my G,G, Grandmother, who married Edward Meredith on Christmas eve 1845. I have a copy of their wedding certificate, which got me on the trail of Edward Owen.

Thanks again, Baracws