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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 12 January 06 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annie,

You are right - there are just a couple in the US  :).  I don't know where they originate from but you have to have something stored up for a rainy day.  There is always the possibility that John and Mary Bourdot's children (or themselves) emigrated from Canada (when I find them getting there from Ireland) to the US.  My missing William may have also gone there.  They sure as eggs didn't get over to NZ, that's for sure.  Another family legend says that my Samuel Ralston who did leave Ireland for NZ with his family were actually wanting to head to the US but the ship they wanted wasn't leaving for three weeks and it was going to cost too much for them to stay and wait...so they took the next leaving which was 'Star of China' out to NZ.

Funny how things work out like that.

How good are census records for N.Ireland?

Cheers

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Jackson - London
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Bourdot - N.Ireland/France
McKinley - N.Ireland
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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 12 January 06 23:00 GMT (UK) »


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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 12 January 06 23:28 GMT (UK) »


Bunny!

Are this couple yours??

Ivy Nessie Bourdot b. 21 Apr 1902 Christchurch New Zealand
Died 8 Jan 1963 Alice Texas USA
Father William Bourdot
Mother Caroline Newsome

Married in Christchurch New Zealand

Robert Charles Abbott  b. 12 Feb 1895 in Christchurch New Zealand
Died 2 Jul 1977 in Tauranga New Zealand

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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #21 on: Friday 13 January 06 01:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annie,

They are indeedly doodly!  According to the family stories file 'Ivy married some Yank and returned to America' which I think means her new husband took her back to America to where his family was.  Got no idea who he was so far. From memory Robert Abbott was her son from her first marriage.  Haven't figured out yet if she had children by her second husband.  US data very hard to get into.

I think you must be in Rootsweb or something.  Frederick Bourdot is in there also married to Sarah Green (and what a skeleton in the closet that whole episode still is).  ;)

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Bourdot - N.Ireland/France
McKinley - N.Ireland
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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #22 on: Friday 13 January 06 10:24 GMT (UK) »
This is getting even better!  Bunny, now I want to hear all about Frederick. LOl

Thanks Annie for the congrats.

I am going to have to get a spreadsheet to figure out who is who now and see what develops.

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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #23 on: Friday 13 January 06 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Just to let you know I have been looking but can't find anything out yet. Glad Pat and Annie are on the job! Do let us all know if anyone new turns up that belongs to you. The early members are fascinating - it is a pity we can' find out anything more about Nicholas and perhaps other French settlers.
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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #24 on: Friday 13 January 06 17:36 GMT (UK) »

Bunny - there isn't too many Bourdot's in my sources - (apart from Americans .. !) - so I'm giving you what I'm gleaning .... I don't do Rootsweb - maybe I should!!

That Robert Charles Abbot was Ivy's husband - not son !! ;)

A couple more back burner ones  (always good to have!!)

1887 December Marriages Pancras (1837-1901) London Middlesex
Bourdot Jeanne Adelaide C
Greenslade William

Canadian Immigrant Records
Hector? BOURDOT
1901 Census of Canada - Province of Manitoba (list of immigrants taken out)
born outside of Canada Age 23
National Archives of Canada Microfilm Reel No. T6435, District 012 - Winnipeg  Sub-District B06, page 7

Annie ::)

And I mention this only because I found Christopher Frederick Bourdot's WW1 draft card - he was living in Chicago and found him again in 1930 census in Chicago living with wife Mable
Christoph F Bourdot 57 Illinois Head Chicago Cook Illinois
Wife Mable Bourdot
Father born France
Mother born Denmark

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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #25 on: Friday 13 January 06 19:52 GMT (UK) »

Bunny!

I checked the French Muster Rolls - no "Bourdot's"
but I checked all the Nicholas' in case the spelling was wrong
same with Jacques
same with Jean Baptist
No go! - over 3000 men!!

Also checked the wills in British Archives - nothing there - more than likely to be in the Proni! (if there is a will ....  ::) )

Here's a great resource site!

http://users.bigpond.net.au/kirwilli/history/history.htm

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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #26 on: Friday 13 January 06 21:48 GMT (UK) »
You guys are all so awesome!!!!!  I can't believe the huge amount of work you have been putting into this.

The French Muster rolls is an interesting bend to take.  For what years did they cover?  The only one that would have been on it would have been Nicholas as he was in Admiral Thurot's army/navy who were involved in the Battle of Carrickfergus in 1760.  It was there that he was taken prisoner of war.  All of Nicholas' descendents were born in N.Ireland (before they started taking off to other shores).  There is no family record of any of them returning to France (although anything is possible).  I would really like to know more about the prisoners of war and their conditions at the Ann Street Barracks in Belfast between 1760-1763.  Know any good sites?

Does anyone know how to check military service records in France?  And how do you check the wills in the British Archives?

Ooooo...interested in this Hector Bourdot in Canada.  Wonder if the Family History Libraries in NZ have access to Canadian info?

Man, I'm sorry!  All I have are questions!!!

Anyway the skeleton in our closet is not a bad one to me but to some of the family it's quite a major thing.  All Frederick did was to marry Sarah and formally adopt her son thereby giving him his name.  So the son becomes a Bourdot and therefore so do his descendents.  So one day we get a phone call from relatives saying that 'they' are asking for family information but we aren't to give it to them as they don't have a right to the name.  As I'm the younger generation I really couldn't care if they were adopted or not - if you have the name you should at least know where it came from.  And in any case I found the history of the other side so they could have both or choose.  But I tell you I get questioned why I'm interested in them.  So I just keep quiet and get on with it.

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Bunny
Finey - Hants, Sussex, Portsmouth area
Squire - Devon
Jackson - London
Leach/Prague - India
Bourdot - N.Ireland/France
McKinley - N.Ireland
Quelch - Northamptonshire