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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 14 January 06 00:01 GMT (UK) »


Thought you might like some background stuff!!  :)

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By the way - I did check the Manx census and the Channel Islands ... Nada!!
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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 14 January 06 07:24 GMT (UK) »
Annie:
You never cease to amaze me!!!  I wish I could see YOUR bookmarks! Wow.

Bunny,  nice story there about Frederick. I knew you were a softie. (that is meant as a compliment)

Ok. here is something on Nicholas' adventure.

"They sailed on the 21st for Ireland and on the following day landed about 600 men at Kilroot, 2 miles north-east of Carrickfergus. The French marched on the town of Carrickfergus, where a considerable amount of house to house fighting took place. The British retired to the castle, which was attacked by the French, who were repulsed with substantial losses. The British eventually ran out of ammunition and the garrison was surrendered to the French. The French sent an officer under a flag of truce to Belfast. He demanded stores to the value of 1200, under the threat of burning Carrickfergus and Belfast to the ground. The stores were provided on the 24th and the French loaded them and prepared for departure. Carrickfergus by this time was surrounded by troops from a several regiments. Bad weather delayed the French squadron's departure and it was the 28th before they sailed.

Once clear of Belfast Lough they set course for the Isle of Man. It has been said by some sources that their intention was to sail to Peel and take George Moore prisoner. Thurot was said to have had dealings with George Moore in his smuggling days and had purchased George Moore's Negro servant from him. There is no doubt that the Island would have been in no position to have defended itself against this French force.

Thurot's mischief was fast coming to an end. Capt Elliot who had been alerted to intercept Thurot, came within sight of Thurot, as the French rounded the Copeland Islands of County Down. Thurot immediately changed course for Scotland. The British squadron overhauled the French and a battle took place off the Isle of Man. The defeated French ships were brought into Ramsey Bay."

Read about what they were up to before getting to Carrickfergus.
http://www.homepages.mcb.net/kelly/manxatsea/sevenyearswar.html

More to come.

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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 14 January 06 07:44 GMT (UK) »
A song about the attack on Carrickfergus.

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4022#69363

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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 14 January 06 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi there Pat,

My goodness!  I bow to the Mistress of the Web Search :D.  You are totally fantabulous.  I took a printout of one of your earlier weblinks and may just get the book that was mentioned.  And I'll be taking copies of the latest stuff as well for my records.

I have been provided with more information on John Bourdot and Mary (Campbell) (Annie will know of this too).  That it looks most likely that John and Mary had at least one child called Isabella/Bella who married a John K Laing in Canada (Toronto) in 1894 and moved to Winnipeg with Mary living with them.  Information notes that Mary went to Canada in about 1890 and the 1901 Census puts her year of birth as 1830 so she would have been 60 at the date of emigration.  All this means that Isabella would most likley have been born in N.Ireland (raving assumption) so there is a possibility that there may be a record of her birth or of any brothers or sisters hiding somewhere.  ::)

There is also a small hope that missing William may have married a woman named Ellen and also moved to Canada (at some point) but this whole thing needs to find a positive link first.

Woo hoo the chase is on!

You da Searcher

Bunny
Finey - Hants, Sussex, Portsmouth area
Squire - Devon
Jackson - London
Leach/Prague - India
Bourdot - N.Ireland/France
McKinley - N.Ireland
Quelch - Northamptonshire

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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 15 January 06 01:16 GMT (UK) »
Note to self (just like Bridget Jones),

Must read everything first before quantum leaping to conclusions. William and Ellen are red herrings at this point - their ages on the census for Canada are nothing near John Bourdot's age.

So William is still missing at this point.

Also John K Laing could either be John K or John R - census info for Canada is not that clear.  He was born in Scotland approx 1866 so that's something entirely different.

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Leach/Prague - India
Bourdot - N.Ireland/France
McKinley - N.Ireland
Quelch - Northamptonshire

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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 15 January 06 14:19 GMT (UK) »
Ahem! 
"My goodness!  I bow to the Mistress of the Web Search"

Just rechecked. Am still male. Lol.

See, another example of why one should never jump to conclusions.

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Pat (as in Patrick)
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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 15 January 06 17:47 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Pat  :-[

Argh!  Now I'm going to get a rep!  I'll be known as Fluffy Bunny instead of Infobunny.

Master, to hark back to these Irish shores...are there any birth records in Ireland of Eleanor Jane (b.5 Dec 1834) or Isabella Bourdot (this is a different Isabella to John's daughter but no idea as to the birth) who were John Baptist Bourdot's daughters by his second marriage to Isabella Wilson on 5 Aug 1833? We know nothing about what has happened to these sisters at all.  Like they just up and vanished or something.

Or any records actually come to think of it.

What do Griffiths Valuations do for people these days?

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Squire - Devon
Jackson - London
Leach/Prague - India
Bourdot - N.Ireland/France
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Quelch - Northamptonshire

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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #34 on: Monday 16 January 06 00:43 GMT (UK) »
Work on my Canadian thread has turned up two Bourdot's that are unknown to me but who appear on the 1901 census for Ontario:

William Bourdot - b. 13 dec 1873 in Ireland (could be NI or anywhere in Ireland).  Emigrated to Canada in 1899 (have noticed dates of emigration can be a bit mobile), and worked as an upholsterer at the date of the 1901 census in Canada.

Ellen Bourdot - b. 15 January 1873 in Ireland.  Emigrated to Canada in 1872 (which makes no sense - either she was born in 1872 and came out with her parents in 1873 or her parents came out in 1872).  Working as a domestic for George Gillies and family at the date of the 1901 census.

At this point I'm laying claim to any and all Bourdot's coming out of Ireland!  Can anyone help on figuring out if there are any records for the two mentioned above in Ireland?

Thanks

Bunny
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Squire - Devon
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Leach/Prague - India
Bourdot - N.Ireland/France
McKinley - N.Ireland
Quelch - Northamptonshire

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Re: Bourdot Family in Belfast
« Reply #35 on: Monday 16 January 06 04:06 GMT (UK) »
Here's another one of those things that I don't understand!! A Bourdot from America (Pat's stompin' ground .. !) admitted to the Charity Hospital in Ireland .. !

January 1851 Admissions to Charity Hospital           Orleans Parish

31-Jan      36  Virginie Bourdot born Lambert                           St. Louis, Missouri               29     St. Louis             3 mos      W   -        Catarrhus                    4 3/4

http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/orleans/vitals/charityhos/chajan51.txt

Oh wait! I thought this was Orleans Parish in Ireland - but I think I'm mistaken! - now I've confused meself!!  ::) ::) ::)

Time to get my coat!! :P
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