Turnbull / Bonchesterbrige

[Josephine]

We are not actually direct descendants of James and George, but they are considered our ancestors.

Your ancestors are only the people from whom you are directly descended. James and George are your distant relatives; they are not your ancestors.

Regards,
Josephine

[Josephine]

Attached is a snippet on the term Daylight Robbery. It is an Oxford Dictionary term I believe. So if you are American, it may not be a familiar term @Josephine.

Thank you, Brett.

Regards,
Josephine

[BrettMaximus]

We are not actually direct descendants of James and George, but they are considered our ancestors.

Your ancestors are only the people from whom you are directly descended. James and George are your distant relatives; they are not your ancestors.

Regards,
Josephine

Hi Josephine,

The definition of the noun "ancestor" seems to vary depending on the source of the definition.

At https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ancestor it suggests that an Ancestor is a person related to you who lived a long time ago.

The Oxford Dictionary gives a similar explanation at: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/ancestor

However; the Merriam Webster's Dictionary, which I believe is an American dictionary, suggests that the word Ancestor means:  "One from whom a person is descended and who is usually more remote in the line of descent than a grandparent" https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ancestor

The earlier two referenced dictionaries are British of course.

(Updated)



Regards

Brett

[Josephine]

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, Brett. That learner's dictionary seems overly simplified.

See:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/ancestor

Regards,
Josephine

Edited to add:
This article includes a definition: https://www.familytreemagazine.com/strategies/collateralrelative/

[BrettMaximus]

Yes Josephine,

We shall have to agree to disagree.

I was raised in Australia using British English, so the dictionaries we used, were the likes of the Oxford Dictionary. So in this case, and Australian and an American would have had a different education in some ways, particularly in relation to spelling and grammar.

In my words, I generally say that past related members of my family are ancestors, yet I would refer to a GGGG grandfather (for example) to be a Direct Ancestor.

But I get your point Josephine.

Brett

[Forfarian]

Sir James Augustus Henry Murray, FBA was a Scottish lexicographer and philologist. He was the primary editor of the Oxford English Dictionary from 1879 until his death.
Sir James was also a school teacher in Hawick. In the book, "The Wilson Story" he gets a mention as he taught some of the Wilson's.
Sir James is also played by Mel Gibson in the movie "The Professor and the Madman".

I wonder how on earth Mel Gibson would manage to include his trademark bare backside shot in a film about Sir James?

Er ... I'll get my coat, shall I? ...

[BrettMaximus]

Sir James Augustus Henry Murray, FBA was a Scottish lexicographer and philologist. He was the primary editor of the Oxford English Dictionary from 1879 until his death.
Sir James was also a school teacher in Hawick. In the book, "The Wilson Story" he gets a mention as he taught some of the Wilson's.
Sir James is also played by Mel Gibson in the movie "The Professor and the Madman".

I wonder how on earth Mel Gibson would manage to include his trademark bare backside shot in a film about Sir James?

Haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO0TbcAkhYY

Brett

Er ... I'll get my coat, shall I? ...

[James Russell]

Turnbull was not in Rulewater until after 1314

[dawnsh]

Hi James

You used the report to moderator button and sent a message, Publican and Smith, in reply to an earlier post #1 by AndiR.

I'm putting it here so others can see.

Dawn