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Lookup please 1891 and 1901
« on: Saturday 04 February 06 20:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I'm looking to track down a German immigrant couple who were living in Manchester possibly in 1891 and definitely in 1901.

This is what I know:

Rudolf and Margaret GOLDSCHMIDT   

Rudolf has a document in the National Archives indicating that he applied for
Nationality and Naturalisation on 8 March 1898 as: Goldschmidt, Rudolf Felix, from Germany. It also states that he was a resident in Manchester.

From a family member and a diary we know that they lived at "Withington at Fontenay, Rathan Road".

Other than this I'm afraid I don't have any details about their ages or occupations.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Kind regards and thanks in advance for your time and energy.

Kirsten
Beach (Faversham, Whitstable, Kent , Windsor Bucks)
Reay, Waller, Hutton (Cumberland, Westmorland)
Oppenheim (Hamburg, Mecklenberg, Manchester)
Cassell, Dickinson, Walter (London, Kent and Surrey)
Bury, Heywood, Cohen, Sichel (Lancashire)
Thompson (Great Yarmouth, London and Kent)
Brewer, Harvey (Suffolk, Norfolk)
Mathison (Newcastle upon Tyne)
http://www.webpalette.co.uk/Oppenheims.htm
UK Census info. is Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Lookup please 1891 and 1901
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 February 06 20:50 GMT (UK) »
1901

24 Oak Road, Withington
 
Rudolf Goldschmidt,Head age 35 Shipping Merchant in Cotton Goods b.Germany
Margaret Goldschmidt,wife age 30 b. Hull, Yorkshire
Cecil Boyes,nephew age 12 b. Beverley, Yorkshire
D Goldschmidt,visitor age 63 Widower b. German Subject, Germany
Emily Brandreth,servant age 21 b. Macclesfield, Cheshire

RG13/3670 Chorlton Didsbury Folio 54 Pge 12

Tricia
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Lookup please 1891 and 1901
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 February 06 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Hey Tricia!  :D

That's terrific!

It seems we have another Jewish German immigrant in the Textile merchant industry again!

I'm wondering now where he was before 1901 as it seems that he married an English lady from Yorkshire.

ooh.....it's getting interesting thanks!
Beach (Faversham, Whitstable, Kent , Windsor Bucks)
Reay, Waller, Hutton (Cumberland, Westmorland)
Oppenheim (Hamburg, Mecklenberg, Manchester)
Cassell, Dickinson, Walter (London, Kent and Surrey)
Bury, Heywood, Cohen, Sichel (Lancashire)
Thompson (Great Yarmouth, London and Kent)
Brewer, Harvey (Suffolk, Norfolk)
Mathison (Newcastle upon Tyne)
http://www.webpalette.co.uk/Oppenheims.htm
UK Census info. is Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Lookup please 1891 and 1901
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 February 06 20:57 GMT (UK) »
 Goldschmidt, Rudolph Fritz 1893 March Marriages Chorlton Lancashire
Murray, Margaret 1893 March Marriages Chorlton Lancashire

Goldschmidt, Rudolph Fritz
Marriage Qrt ending March 1893
Chorlton
Volume: 8c
Page: 964 

Tricia
 

Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
********************************************************
Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi


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Re: Lookup please 1891 and 1901
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 February 06 20:59 GMT (UK) »
 ;) lol

I couldn't find Rudolf and was looking for Margaret Boyes.  Thanks again.

I don't believe they had any children but I do know they took care of a girl who was born in Paris and raised in Indianapolis in the US, who arrived in 1908 aged 15.

I'll see if I can find any births for them.  I'm guessing there's nothing earlier than 1901.

K
Beach (Faversham, Whitstable, Kent , Windsor Bucks)
Reay, Waller, Hutton (Cumberland, Westmorland)
Oppenheim (Hamburg, Mecklenberg, Manchester)
Cassell, Dickinson, Walter (London, Kent and Surrey)
Bury, Heywood, Cohen, Sichel (Lancashire)
Thompson (Great Yarmouth, London and Kent)
Brewer, Harvey (Suffolk, Norfolk)
Mathison (Newcastle upon Tyne)
http://www.webpalette.co.uk/Oppenheims.htm
UK Census info. is Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Lookup please 1891 and 1901
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 February 06 21:05 GMT (UK) »
This is all I could find in 1891

Rudolph Goldschmidt age 27, Foreign Correspondent born Hamburg Germany

Lodging 109 Bloombsbury, Chorlton, Manchester Lancs with Head Mary Burroughs and assorted people


RG12/3183 Chorlton Folio 46 Page 29
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Lookup please 1891 and 1901
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 February 06 21:08 GMT (UK) »
 ;D

So he was definitely there in 1891 and it looks like he decided to stay.....perhaps Margaret was one of the reasons he did, as it seems he was not a merchant but rather a foreign correspondent!

Now that we know Margaret was born in Hull, Yorkshire around 1871. I'll see if I can track down her birth record.

:-* K
Beach (Faversham, Whitstable, Kent , Windsor Bucks)
Reay, Waller, Hutton (Cumberland, Westmorland)
Oppenheim (Hamburg, Mecklenberg, Manchester)
Cassell, Dickinson, Walter (London, Kent and Surrey)
Bury, Heywood, Cohen, Sichel (Lancashire)
Thompson (Great Yarmouth, London and Kent)
Brewer, Harvey (Suffolk, Norfolk)
Mathison (Newcastle upon Tyne)
http://www.webpalette.co.uk/Oppenheims.htm
UK Census info. is Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Lookup please 1891 and 1901
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 February 06 21:12 GMT (UK) »
It just might be worth sending for his marriage cert to make sure that is her. There was one other male on the same page and I assumed it was Rudolph's spouse as her name was Margaret - but you never know.
I can't match her up on 1891


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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
********************************************************
Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Lookup please 1891 and 1901
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 February 06 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Good thought!

It does seem a likely due to the christian name match though a common one.

Still looking as we speak.

I did find him on www.historicaldirectories.com:

Slater's Manchester, Salford & Suburban Directory, 1903. [Part 4: Suburban Directory
Goldschmidt Rudolf, Daisy bank, 24 Oak Road, Withington

Although I haven't been able to work out whether he had his own business listing or not.

:-) K
Beach (Faversham, Whitstable, Kent , Windsor Bucks)
Reay, Waller, Hutton (Cumberland, Westmorland)
Oppenheim (Hamburg, Mecklenberg, Manchester)
Cassell, Dickinson, Walter (London, Kent and Surrey)
Bury, Heywood, Cohen, Sichel (Lancashire)
Thompson (Great Yarmouth, London and Kent)
Brewer, Harvey (Suffolk, Norfolk)
Mathison (Newcastle upon Tyne)
http://www.webpalette.co.uk/Oppenheims.htm
UK Census info. is Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk