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Batty lookup 1841
« on: Tuesday 07 February 06 21:08 GMT (UK) »
I am looking to make a connection with Jonathan Batty in the census of 1841. He was born 1804 in Killamarsh. He was a farmer.
He is registered as a widow in the 1851 census, so I am hoping to find his wife Sarah is around in 1841.

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Dublin: Bloomfield, Short<br />Yorkshire: Bloomfield, Chambers, Mottram, Hayes<br />Derbyshire:  Batty, Savage, Leah, Hempstock<br />Nottinghamshire: Hempstock, Chambers, Hepworth, Taylor

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 February 06 22:28 GMT (UK) »
I looked through the Killamarsh images and I could find Jonathan - however Sarah was a very popular woman.

At Highmoor Killamarch
James Batty 25 born in county
Sarah Batty 25 Not born in county
William Batty 8 born in county
Joseph Batty 5 born in county
Sarah Batty 3 not born in county
Mary Batty 1 not born in county

At Northmoor
Sarah Batty 55 born in county
William Batty 30 born in county
Sarah Batty 6 born in county

also at Northmoor
Sarah Batty 60 born in county
Mary Batty 30 born in county
John Batty 20 born in county

other Batty names
One entry - Slept in a barge
Robert Bard 12 born in county
Joseph Batty 37 born in county
William Winfield 30 born in county
John Batty 25 born in county
Jude Mallinder 15 born in county
Robert Nichols 12 born in county

Sue
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Alker - Aspull, Hindley
Marsh - Atherton
Blain - Atherton
Gill - Atherton
Hogg - Loscoe, Crich
Harrison - Heanor, Ruddington
Earnshaw - Heanor
Cope - Heanor, Loscoe, Mapperley
Daykin - Heanor, Loscoe, Mapperley

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 February 06 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Sarah's maiden name was Leah, but I am almost sure that they were married with children by 1841.
Were there any children with Jonathan?

Gregg :)
Dublin: Bloomfield, Short<br />Yorkshire: Bloomfield, Chambers, Mottram, Hayes<br />Derbyshire:  Batty, Savage, Leah, Hempstock<br />Nottinghamshire: Hempstock, Chambers, Hepworth, Taylor


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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 11:53 GMT (UK) »
I'm sorry it should said couldn't find above for Jonathan.

I listed all the people called Batty I could find.

Sue
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Alker - Aspull, Hindley
Marsh - Atherton
Blain - Atherton
Gill - Atherton
Hogg - Loscoe, Crich
Harrison - Heanor, Ruddington
Earnshaw - Heanor
Cope - Heanor, Loscoe, Mapperley
Daykin - Heanor, Loscoe, Mapperley

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for trying Sue, the effort is appreciated.

Gregg  :)
Dublin: Bloomfield, Short<br />Yorkshire: Bloomfield, Chambers, Mottram, Hayes<br />Derbyshire:  Batty, Savage, Leah, Hempstock<br />Nottinghamshire: Hempstock, Chambers, Hepworth, Taylor

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 February 06 12:20 GMT (UK) »
I have the whole of Derbyshire 1841 census on CD.  As you probably know it is not indexed.  If you find any more info on somewhere else your family might be, I'll be happy to look.

Sue
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Alker - Aspull, Hindley
Marsh - Atherton
Blain - Atherton
Gill - Atherton
Hogg - Loscoe, Crich
Harrison - Heanor, Ruddington
Earnshaw - Heanor
Cope - Heanor, Loscoe, Mapperley
Daykin - Heanor, Loscoe, Mapperley

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 February 06 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi there Gregg,

I have access to the 1841 index, and have found this entry which looks like it could be them -

1841

Dale, Killamarsh

BATTY Jonthn - 37 - Coal Miner
BATTY Sarah - 40
BATTY Harriet - 18
BATTY Catherine - 15
BATTY Susanna - 6
BATTY Edward - 10
BATTY Mark - 5
BATTY Saml - 4 mths

ALL BORN IN COUNTY

              HO107/195/13/26/p17

Regards
Sue
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Bundy - Ross Herefordshire/ Birmingham
Dugdale - Isle of Man

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 February 06 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue
That certainly does look like the entry that I am looking for. All the names and ages tally with the ones in the 1851 census and beyond. I have since found Sarah died in 1845 possibly in child birth. Also between the two census' of '41 and '51 Jonathan as gone from a coalminer to a farmer of 28 acres.  :o

Thank you very much to Sue and Sue for your time.   :)

I have two family group records with the child being Jonathan Batty. One christened 13 Oct 1803 Killamarsh, Father: William, Mother: Sarah  And the other christened 23 Oct 1803 Killamarsh Father: John, Mother: Sarah. One is the Jonathan we have in the 1841 census. Is there a way of pinpointing which one?

I am plaqued by Jonathan Battys. I have another in my tree (different family) married to a Mary Ann also in Killamarsh. At least I know them to be there in 1822 when their daughter Zillah was born. Unfortunately I have no other dates for this particular Jonathan.  ???

Thanks again for your help and time.
Gregg  :)
Dublin: Bloomfield, Short<br />Yorkshire: Bloomfield, Chambers, Mottram, Hayes<br />Derbyshire:  Batty, Savage, Leah, Hempstock<br />Nottinghamshire: Hempstock, Chambers, Hepworth, Taylor

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 February 06 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Hello there,

There is one other Jonathan Batty in Killamarsh -

1841

Sheep Coat Hill, Killamarsh

BATTY Jonthn - 49 - Shoe M
BATTY Mary - 46
BATTY Israel - 13
BATTY Abraham - 10
BATTY Deborah - 8
BATTY Edwd - 5
BATTY Joseph - 3
BATTY William - 10 mths
MACHIN Martha - 70

ALL BORN IN COUNTY

         HO107/195/13/27/p19&20

I see your predicament regarding which Jonathan Batty is yours, but I can't see how you can find out.  If his marriage had been after the introdction of civil registration you would have been able to find out his fathers name from the wedding certificate, unfortunately for you - this is not the case.  Oh well, best of luck with it anyway.

Sue    :)
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Wilson - Coleorton Leicesershire/ Swadlincote Derbyshire.
Bundy - Ross Herefordshire/ Birmingham
Dugdale - Isle of Man