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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 09 February 06 22:41 GMT (UK) »
There is one other Jonathan Batty in Killamarsh -

1841

Sheep Coat Hill, Killamarsh

BATTY Jonthn - 49 - Shoe M
BATTY Mary - 46
BATTY Israel - 13
BATTY Abraham - 10
BATTY Deborah - 8
BATTY Edwd - 5
BATTY Joseph - 3
BATTY William - 10 mths
MACHIN Martha - 70

ALL BORN IN COUNTY

         HO107/195/13/27/p19&20


Thankyou Sue, you have been a big help,
                    Would you happen to have records for 51 and 61 to check if Mary Batty is ever down as Mary Ann Batty?
 
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Dublin: Bloomfield, Short<br />Yorkshire: Bloomfield, Chambers, Mottram, Hayes<br />Derbyshire:  Batty, Savage, Leah, Hempstock<br />Nottinghamshire: Hempstock, Chambers, Hepworth, Taylor

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 09 February 06 23:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

Have checked the 1851 & 61 census, but she is listed as Mary on those too, here they are -

1851

Killamarsh

Mary Batty       Head   Wid   56   Confectioner      Yorks, Balbro'
William Batty     Son            10    Scholar             Derbys, Killamarsh

              HO107/2148/404/p3

1861

Nether Green, Killamarsh

Mary Batty      Head    Wid    66    Confectioner     Derbys. Killamarsh
Joseph Batty   Son      Un      24    Coal Miner            ''              ''
William Batty   Son      Un      20       ''      ''               ''              ''
Sarah Batty    Gr-daur             8     Scholar               ''              ''

            RG9/2534/24/p16

Hope this is of some help.


Sue    :)



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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 09 February 06 23:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sue that gives me something to work on. There could be a connection.

Best Wishes
Gregg
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Dublin: Bloomfield, Short<br />Yorkshire: Bloomfield, Chambers, Mottram, Hayes<br />Derbyshire:  Batty, Savage, Leah, Hempstock<br />Nottinghamshire: Hempstock, Chambers, Hepworth, Taylor


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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 February 06 23:15 GMT (UK) »
With the Batty's that you found for me in the 1841 census I have managed to make a connection. I have come up with IGI records for the children, that tie them to the only other child that I  had, and their parents. From there I managed to find the fathers christening records along with his parents names. A marriage record then followed for the fathers parents giving a maiden name for the lady.
I have struggled for such a long time with this one. With your help I have come up trumps. Thankyou. :D

I cannot find anything to decifer the other two Jonathan Batty's in my tree. I think parish records will be the next port of call there.

Many Thanks
Gregg :)
Dublin: Bloomfield, Short<br />Yorkshire: Bloomfield, Chambers, Mottram, Hayes<br />Derbyshire:  Batty, Savage, Leah, Hempstock<br />Nottinghamshire: Hempstock, Chambers, Hepworth, Taylor

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 08 June 19 06:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Greg, looks like we are following the same tree.  Jonathan and Mary Ann Batty are my 5th great grandparents.  Have you found Mary Ann's maiden name yet?  I had thought it was Dearnally, but if that is the couple they were married in Kirkburton, and Im thinking that's not likely given how far that is from Killamarsh/Barlborough where they were both born. 

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 08 June 19 13:08 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.
Gregg hasnt been on here since 2013 so hopefully you will get a reply.

With regards to William Batty 1841 there are 2 GRO Birth Regs;

BATTY, WILLIAM, Mothers maiden name MACHIN**** 
GRO Reference: 1840  S Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY  Volume 19  Page 441

BATTY, WILLIAM  no Mothers maiden name      - 
GRO Reference: 1841  D Quarter in OF CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY  Volume 19  Page 440

2nd one likely illegitimate Bapt 10 Nov 1841, St Giles, Killamarsh, Mother CATHERINE


This looks like Joseph born c 1838 according to 1841 Census

BATTY, JOSEPH, Mothers mn MACHON ***
GRO Reference: 1837  D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY  Volume 19  Page 314

So MACHIN Martha - 70 on Census is likely related :)

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 08 June 19 13:46 BST (UK) »
MARY ANN Machen Baptised 10 Sep 1795, St James the Great, Barlborough, Derbyshire
Mother ELIZABETH 

1871 Mary A Batty is born c 1795 Barlborough, Derbyshire,
(living with Son William and Family)

1861 c 1795 Balbro, Yorkshire, with William age 10
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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 08 June 19 14:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for your help Trish.  I have just joined the site and didn't realise it was such an old thread.  You're right she was a Machin/Machon/Machen, which I have been looking for all day.  (Its nearly midnight here in Oz).  Now Im looking for her marriage to Jonathan Batty.  It never ends does it, lol. 
Thanks again for your kind help.
Sue

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Re: Batty lookup 1841
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 09 June 19 11:34 BST (UK) »
Given her age when 1st Batty child was born she may be widowed and the marriage under another surname.
GRO only shows her maiden name on birth regs.

Trish, in Sydney :)
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