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1851 census
« on: Wednesday 08 February 06 19:17 GMT (UK) »
Help please!

looking for William LANE born West Lavington Wilts in 1841
(He doesn't appear on the 1851 for West Lavington)

Mothers name Eliza/Elizabeth LANE , father's name unknown

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Re: 1851 census
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 19:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Myfi!

The only one I can find is in a rather odd household..... you don't suppose Eliza married a John Shadwell, do you? Anyway, here he is

Address - Great Cheverell, Wiltshire
Ref - HO107/1839 Folio 358 Page 8

John Shadwell - Head - Mar - 40 - Labourer - Wilts, Filldean (?)
Elizabeth Shadwell - Wife - Mar - 37 - Wilts, West Lavington
Levi Shadwell - Son - - 5 - - Wilts, Great Cheverell
Richard Shadwell - Son - 3 - - Wilts, Great Cheverell
Edward Shadwell - Son - 4 months - - Wilts, Great Cheverell
William Lane - Lodger - 10 - - Wilts, West Lavington
Jane Lane - Lodger - Unmar - 77 - Parish Relief - Wilts, Easterton

Hope this helps

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Re: 1851 census
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 19:38 GMT (UK) »
looks like Eliza may have re-married!
1851 census
great cheverall, wiltshire
john shadwell head mar 40 labourer b.lieldean, wilts.
Elizabeth wife 37 b. west lavington, wilts
Levi son 5 b. great cheverall, wilts
Richard son 3 b. great cheverall, wilts
Edward son 4 months b. great cheverall, wilts
William lane lodger 10 b. west lavington, wilts
Jane lane lodger unm 77 parish relief b. easterton, wilts
HO107/1839 folio 358 page 8
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Re: 1851 census
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 20:09 GMT (UK) »


Thank you so much Angela and Supersan

Found at last!

Don't think Elizabeth remarried.....I found an entry for William's baptism on the LDS site and it just gave his mothers name Eliza LANE.  There was an Elizabeth LANE bapt. West Lavington in 1812 so it is possible this is she.

Can't find a registration for his birth on either free BMD or Ancestry............ so would it be worth applying for a Birth Certificate giving just the year and Mothers name?



thank you again

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BERRY-Wexford, Ireland>England
BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow
MUSTY- Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India
PUFFITT-Filkins,Oxfordshire
HARNESS- EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire
LANE- India
STOLLERY-Suffolk
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Re: 1851 census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 February 06 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Hello Myfi!

I was just having another look round for your William and his mum and found the link with the 1851 census  ;D

The IGI has an entry for the marriage of Elizabeth Lane and John Shadwell at Great Cheverell on 8th April 1844. So it looks like William was illegitimate but Elizabeth subsequently remarried.... What's puzzling is that there's no record of a GRO reference on the BMD indexes, so any certificate for that would have to be ordered on the basis of the marriage date. It should give Eliza(beth)'s father's name though!

As far as asking for William's birth certificate on the basis of the year and mother's name - I think it's probably not really worth while as he may well not have been registered at that early date and anyway the certificate wouldn't tell you any more than the christening record does  :(

Hope this helps a bit

Best wishes

Angela
Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Especially looking for - Sealey, Rogers, Cannings, Box, Sheppard in Wiltshire; Virgin, Slade, Abbott, Saint, Harper, Silverthorn in Somerset; and Virgin, Tarr, Beer in Devon

And most especially the origins of William Cannings,  a Baptist, born abt 1791 in Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire

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Re: 1851 census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 February 06 10:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi Angela

Thank you so much for your observations  ;D

Will definately take your advice re sending for Eliza(beth)'s marriage cert. (never thought of that! doh)


Yesterday I received William's Marriage cert...guess what?surprise, surprise! Father's name BLANK...although his (fathers) occupation was Labourer  ::)


thanks again

Myfi





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BERRY-Wexford, Ireland>England
BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow
MUSTY- Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India
PUFFITT-Filkins,Oxfordshire
HARNESS- EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire
LANE- India
STOLLERY-Suffolk
HERCLIFF -East Riding, Yorks

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Re: 1851 census
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 February 06 11:06 GMT (UK) »
couple of snippets on this family

Eliza(beth) Shadwell died Devizes Work House 1878
John Shadwell died Devizes Work House 1890
Jane Lane (Eliza's mum?) died Devizes Work House 1871

Extract from the Salisbury and Winchester Journal Monday, 1st Aug 1825

"Committed to the House of Correction, Devizes:- JANE LANE of West Lavington and Jane Holloway of Worton, six months each, for being LEWD Women"

Not proved whether it's my Jane....but ......!! :o


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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
BERRY-Wexford, Ireland>England
BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow
MUSTY- Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India
PUFFITT-Filkins,Oxfordshire
HARNESS- EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire
LANE- India
STOLLERY-Suffolk
HERCLIFF -East Riding, Yorks

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Re: 1851 census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 February 06 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Myfi

What a colourful family  ;D

The Devizes house of correction must have been quite a busy place - my great great grandfather Uzziah Zealy(Sealey) was there in 1817 for "having feloniously stolen, taken, and carried away one hempen sack, and four bushels of unwinnowed wheat". He got 12 months hard labour.

Times were very difficult for the rural poor then....

Angela
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Especially looking for - Sealey, Rogers, Cannings, Box, Sheppard in Wiltshire; Virgin, Slade, Abbott, Saint, Harper, Silverthorn in Somerset; and Virgin, Tarr, Beer in Devon

And most especially the origins of William Cannings,  a Baptist, born abt 1791 in Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire

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Re: 1851 census
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 March 06 10:47 GMT (UK) »
 :'( :'( :'(

received reply from the GRO today.......no record of Eliza/Elizabeth LANE marrying John SHADWELL during the years 1843 and 1845 inclusive..... ???



Myfi :'(


Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
BERRY-Wexford, Ireland>England
BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow
MUSTY- Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India
PUFFITT-Filkins,Oxfordshire
HARNESS- EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire
LANE- India
STOLLERY-Suffolk
HERCLIFF -East Riding, Yorks

RIP 2012

ABBAY/ABBEY Yorkshire to St.Petersburg Russia