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1851 census for Antrim
« on: Saturday 11 February 06 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone explain to me variations in the fragments of the surviving 1851 census which can be found online? For the family I researching there is this full record for the Aghadavy townland, Ballinderry, available at http://1851.4t.com/photo.html:

ROSEY McKERNON, 60 (Head) [Widow - Married 1810] - NONE (Antrim) (R)
MARGARET McKERNON, 23 (Daughter) [Unmarried] - LINEN WEAVER (Antrim) (R)
RICHARD McKERNON, 14 (Son) [Unmarried] - CAMBRIC WEAVER (Antrim) (R)
JAMES WALKINGTON, 3 (Grandson) [Unmarried] - NONE (Antrim)
Absent from Household 30th March 1851:
JOHN McKERNON, 33 (Son) - LINEN WEAVER {Drumaleet}
WILLIAM McKERNON, 30 (Son) - PLOUGHMAN {Aghadarg?}
JAMES McKERNON, 21 (Son) - PLOUGHMAN {?}
Died since 6th June 1841:
CHARLES McKERNON, 44 (Husband) - FARMER - Decline Consumption - Spring 1846
MARY McKERNON, 17 (Daughter) - NONE - Decline Consumption - Winter 1846

But at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/igsi_published/cens-sub/ant5111.htm and other sources there is this much simpler record:

ROSEY MCKERNAN /HEAD/W//60/NONE/ANT/
MARGARET MCKERNAN /DAUGHTER/U//23/LINEN WEAVER/ANT/
MATTHEW MCKERNAN /SON/U/14//CAMBRIC WEAVER/ANT/

It's the same family, same townland, same building, despite the variation in surname, but the 14-year-old in one is Richard, and in the other he's Matthew. The first version has much more detail (if not entirely trustworthy - it looks like Charles McKernon, my great-great-great-great grandfather, married at the age of eight, which seems unlikely...). Which version should I trust, and why the differences?

Niall

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Re: 1851 census for Antrim
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 August 07 23:19 BST (UK) »
It's just as well you have the info from that first link Niall.

I've just looked at it and received this message ...

"404 Error - File Not Found"
Possible Reasons:
You may have spelled the URL incorrectly.
This site may have been moved to a different server.
This site may have been removed due to a violation of the FreeServers "Acceptable Use Policy".

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Re: 1851 census for Antrim
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 May 11 21:04 BST (UK) »
Can anyone explain to me variations in the fragments of the surviving 1851 census which can be found online? For the family I researching there is this full record for the Aghadavy townland, Ballinderry, available at http://1851.4t.com/photo.html:

ROSEY McKERNON, 60 (Head) [Widow - Married 1810] - NONE (Antrim) (R)
MARGARET McKERNON, 23 (Daughter) [Unmarried] - LINEN WEAVER (Antrim) (R)
RICHARD McKERNON, 14 (Son) [Unmarried] - CAMBRIC WEAVER (Antrim) (R)
JAMES WALKINGTON, 3 (Grandson) [Unmarried] - NONE (Antrim)
Absent from Household 30th March 1851:
JOHN McKERNON, 33 (Son) - LINEN WEAVER {Drumaleet}
WILLIAM McKERNON, 30 (Son) - PLOUGHMAN {Aghadarg?}
JAMES McKERNON, 21 (Son) - PLOUGHMAN {?}
Died since 6th June 1841:
CHARLES McKERNON, 44 (Husband) - FARMER - Decline Consumption - Spring 1846
MARY McKERNON, 17 (Daughter) - NONE - Decline Consumption - Winter 1846

But at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/igsi_published/cens-sub/ant5111.htm and other sources there is this much simpler record:

ROSEY MCKERNAN /HEAD/W//60/NONE/ANT/
MARGARET MCKERNAN /DAUGHTER/U//23/LINEN WEAVER/ANT/
MATTHEW MCKERNAN /SON/U/14//CAMBRIC WEAVER/ANT/

It's the same family, same townland, same building, despite the variation in surname, but the 14-year-old in one is Richard, and in the other he's Matthew. The first version has much more detail (if not entirely trustworthy - it looks like Charles McKernon, my great-great-great-great grandfather, married at the age of eight, which seems unlikely...). Which version should I trust, and why the differences?

Niall

Hello Niall,
I am researching the same Mc Kernons as you.
Please get in touch.

m.

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Re: 1851 census for Antrim
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 May 11 21:55 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   Niall has not been on-line for over four years but hopefully you will be lucky.

Regards
Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Dungiven area Co. Londonderry
Browne, Barrett -Co.Armagh
Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim


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Re: 1851 census for Antrim
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 May 11 01:16 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   Niall has not been on-line for over four years but hopefully you will be lucky.

Regards


I see that Kingskerswell,
yes I'm hoping to be Lucky.

m.