1881/1891 Census Lookup George Baker Smith

[Shaznki]

Hi
Looking for my  Gt Grandfather George Baker Smith Born Abt 1879 Cardiff Wales
Parents I Believe are:
George Smith Born Abt 1858 Weston Super Mare & Elizabeth Born Abt 1859 Wells Somerset

I have looked on the 1881 census but have been unable to find him!

He married  Mary Louisa Jenkins in Cardiff in 1899

Any help would be very much appreciated

Shaznki

[Tati]

Hi Shaznki,

1891
RG12/4396 69 72
St Mary, Glamorgan
11 Nelson Street
George Smith, head, 38, Saw Mill Proprietor, b. Somerset Bristol
Elizabeth, wife, 40, b. Somerset Wells
Minnie, dau, 17, b. Glam Cardiff
George, son, 11, scholar, b. do.
Edith, dau, 9, scholar, b. do.
Edgar, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 5, scholar, b. do.
Austin Hatcher?, stepson, s, 22, Engine Driver, b. Somerset Wells
Thomas Hennessy, boarder,  s, 36, Ships cook, b. Lancashire Liverpool

Language spoken: English for everybody   

Tanja 

[Tati]

I can't seem to find them in 1881 either...

1871
RG10/5361 14 6
Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan
19 Bute Terrace
Hubert Hatcher, head, 28, House carpenter, b. Somerset Wells
Elizabeth, wife, 28, b. do.
Edwin, son, 8, scholar, b. do.
Austin, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
Florence, dau, 1, b. do.

Although the ages are a little out (especially Elizabeths  )

[Shaznki]

Hi Tati
Many thanks for looking them up not sure if its the right Family although the dates for
Edgar 1884
Elizabeth 1886
George 1880 1 yr out are the same
this is them in the 1901 Census

1901 Census: RG13 4987/201 page 39
Parish of St Mary Cardiff Wales

George Smith Head Born 1858 Weston Super Mare Somerset
Elizabeth Smith ~ Wife Born 1859 Wells Somerset
George Smith ~ Son B. 1879 Cardiff
Edgar Smith ~ Son B. 1884 Cardiff
Elizabeth Smith ~ Daughter B. 1886 Cardiff
Beryl Smith ~ Grand Daughter  B. 1900 Cardiff
Louisa Smith ~ Daughter in Law B. 1879 Cardiff
Arthur Staniforth ~ Grandson B.1891 Cardiff
Elizabeth Staniforth ~ Grand Daughter B.1892 Cardiff

Shaznki ~ Confused!

[Tati]

Yes, I saw them in 1901 - that's the date I traced them back from.

Clearly, Elizabeth didn't age quickly 

But George, Edgar, Elizabeth jr and sr. all right age and right birthplaces - I'm confident they are the ones in 1891.

As for 1871, there aren't many Austin's born Wells in 1871 either, again with a mother born Wells...

I can understand your confusion but can't find anything better. Have spent at least an hour on 1881 to try and track them down but to no avail. Perhaps you will be luckier with the new 1891 census info?

Tanja 

[Tati]

Sorry, I see I put the head down as John Smith in 1891 when he should be a George. Have edited it now for clearness sake 

[Shaznki]

Hi Tanya
Many Thanks onse again for your time
I Think I many have found them on the 1881 Census

11 Nelson Street Cardiff St Mary

Geo. Smith ~ Head 1852 Bristol
E. Smith ~ Other 1848 Wells Somerset
G. Smith ~ Son 1880 Cardiff
M Smith ~ Daughter 1874 Cardiff
A. Watcher ~ Son 1866 Wells
B. Watcher ~ Daughter 1872 Cardiff
E. Watcher ~ Son 1865 Wells

Elizabeth is down as "Other" although is married!
going by your 1891 Census A. Watcher [Austin?] is a stepson
looks like Elizabeth may have been married before.

Thanks again much apprieciated
Shaznki

[Tati]

Great find!!!     

Yes, I posted the census return for the Hatcher family earlier 

Tanja