Jeremiah Topham.

[L.C]

Hi I am searching for a Jeremiam Topham and family. I have only found the one Jeremiah Topham But he and his family are all in Derbyshire. this is them.

JEREMIAH TOPHAM - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 01 NOV 1826 Saint Alkmund, Derby, Derby, England
to Elizabeth SHEWARD.

All these belonged to Jeremiah Topham and Elizabeth Sheward.
.
SARAH TOPHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 MAY 1827 Saint Pauls, Little Eaton, Derby,
England
Death:  18 OCT 1838

. CHARLES TOPHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 DEC 1829 Duffield, Derby, England

. JANE TOPHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 OCT 1831 Duffield, Derby, England


. JOHN TOPHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 08 OCT 1837 Duffield, Derby, England
  . PRUDENCE TOPHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 OCT 1837 Duffield, Derby, England


. ELLEN TOPHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 JUN 1838 Duffield, Derby, England

. SNOWDER TOPHAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 NOV 1840 Duffield, Derby, England.     Snowder is actually snowdon. or en.

The problem is this, The Charles Topham Son of Jeremiah I am looking for says he was born in Belgrave/Leicester. a friend has been right throught the 1841 census but can not find any Tophams except two deaths. If anyone knows anything about the Charles Topham that I have Listed Or his father Jeremiah could you let me know please. I would really apreciate trying to make a conection with the charles from Leicester if I can.
My Charles Topham says he was a widower when he married his second wife. so would be intrested in finding his first marriage. he could have been born anywhere from 1829 to 1836. Cheers LC from OZ

[sunflower]

Hi

I have found the Charles who was born in Leicester in the 1881 census.  It seems strange that the Charles who was baptised in Derbyshire had a brother called Snowdon and the Charles who was born in Leicester named one of this children Snowdon.
I would think that this was more than just a coincidence. Do you have the 1881 information ?

5 Alfred Street. London, Middlesex.

Chas. Topham  45 born Leicester. Joiner
Annie Topham 34  born Brighton
Frederick Topham son  10 born London. Scholar
Snowdon Topham son 8 born London. Scholar
Sarah Topham dau 5 born London, Scholar
Annie Topham dau 1 born London

also in the 1851 census index of Derbyshire there is another
Snowdon aged 74.
Do you want this information?

Sunflower

[L.C]

Hi Sunflower, Yes it is very strange, thats why where trying to find out weather, either their related or this is the same family. so would appreciate any or all info on this family in Derbyshire or any other snowdons as it is a very unusual name and where pretty sure its a family name passed down through generations. the 1881 Census I have and we are direct decendents of that Snowdon Topham. Its a family mystrey as to why Charles says he was born in Leicester when we can find no trace of him or family there at all. So where looking at the Derby Topham family as names and ages seem to fit but we need to con firm it or rule them out. thank you very much for your help Cheers Linda.

[sunflower]

Hi

From the 1851 census index of Derbyshire

Piece 2142. 217 62

Jeremiah    51
Elizabeth   45
Charles     21
Jane          19
John          14
Prudence   17
Snowden   10
Jeremiah      8

Piece 2142.174.13

Snowden   74

Sunflower

[L.C]

Isn't this all getting exciting, thanks Sunflower. If you have access to the 1861 census would you be able to see if the same family are all together, because if charles is not it is possiable that its him in London. thanks for all your help LC

[L.C]

Hi Im hoping there might be some one who could lookup this family on the 1861 and 1871 census's in Derbyshire for  me please. thanks Linda.

From the 1851 census index of Derbyshire

Piece 2142. 217 62

Jeremiah    51
Elizabeth   45
Charles     21
Jane          19
John          14
Prudence   17
Snowden   10
Jeremiah      8

Piece 2142.174.13

Snowden   74

[Alvaston Lad]

today searching through the Derby Mercury newspapwer for 1874, i found a most interesting case of Snowden Topham aged 33, he Killed a man in a Brawl, in a House at Court No1 Orchard Street Derby, and at the end he was found guilty of Manslaughter, not murder, the victim picked up sixpence droped by Topham and claimed it was his, he gave it back to Topham but then Smashed his head through a Window, and fought with him on a sofa, where the victim was stabed in the top of his groin severing an Artery, having not yet looked at the sentance, but i was wondering if he was Tranported rather than Hung as he dose not appear on the census after 1871.

[L.C]

Hi I find this article very intresting as i think this can be a family  member, His father being Jeremiah Topham. snowdons brother Charles also had a son and called him Snowdon Topham and he emigrated to Australia in 1911 he is my husbands grandfather. Any further infomation on Snowdon Topham that you found would be much appreciated, thanks for your help L.C

[carol8353]

Hi LC

Here's the family in 1861 living at 12 Garden Street, St Alkmund, Derby

Elizabeth Topham abt 1805  Matlock, Derbyshire,  Wife 
Ellen Topham abt 1839  Duffield, Derbyshire, Daughter    Silk hand
Jeremiah Topham abt 1800  Derbyshire, Head  Millwright
Jeremiah Topham abt 1843  Duffield, Derbyshire,  Son   Engine stoker.
John Topham abt 1837  Duffield, Derbyshire, Son     Engine fitter
Snowden Topham abt 1841  Duffield, Derbyshire,  Son  Engine fitter

And in 1871 Snowdon and wife Mary are lodging in Derby

Mary Topham abt 1850  Derby, Derbyshire,  Lodger  St Alkmund  Derbyshire   
Snowdon Topham abt 1844  Derby, Derbyshire,  Lodger  St Alkmund  Derbyshire 

Yes,I have to agree with Alvaston lad,he is not on the 1881 and nor is his death registered.....so did he get transported?

Hope this sparks further interest in this topic Linda.

Carol