Jones family1861-1851 - 1841 census

[cardiff]

Hi
looking for
 David Jones no info on him but have his wife and daughter wife- Mary Jones b Abergwilly Carmarthenshire b 1782  daughter- Margaret Jones b Merthyr < 1827>
I have margaret in 1861 census living living Walnut Tree Taffs well =m= Thomas Morgan by 1871 Thomas has died and Margaret has remarried.
Would like David and Mary 1841/1851/1861  census ( david had died sometime before 1868 states he was a collier on Margaretds marriage certificate of 1868) Mary is living with her daughter in 1871)
I know Jones is difficult but can anyone see them.
cheers cardiff

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I can find many David Jones' on the 1851 census, any more clues as to which one it may be???I am unable to locate his wife though unless she is already a widow by then???
 

[cardiff]

Hi badgirl
Info I have Margaret Jones b 1824 Merthyr - I have Margaret on the 1861 census aged 34 =m= Thomas Morgan aged 61 b Mynyddislwyn they are living Nantgarw area Walnt tree (Taffs well).
Her father was david Jones I know nothing of him he may well have died earlier but Margarets mother  Mary Jones  was living with her daughter in 1871 in the parish Eglwysilian which must be in the area of Taffs well.
So Are there any sightings of Margaret and her mother in 1851?
 Mary Jones b Abergwilly 1782 and  Margaret b 1827 merthyr
cheesr cardiff

[Chasing-fireflies]

On the 1851 disc i have neither of them appear. There are 5/6 Margaret Jones' who are daughters but none of them with a mother called mary. There are 2/3 which are servants at the right age but of course its impossible to tell if one of them is her. I know that the discs are not complete so its possible she is hiding somewhere which has not been put on. sorry i could not be of more help!

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ok a little possible breakthrough. I tried Mary again with just her birth year and about 30 came up so would you be able to tell me where Abergwilly is so that i could check these?lots of them are widows etc. How old does it say she is in 1861 incase its been logged wrong i can go by that too.
 

[cardiff]

Hi badgirl
thanks for your help.
Mary Jones  on 1871 census she is aged 89yrs and Abergwilly is in carmarthenshire don't have her in any earlier census.  I have her daughter on the 1861 census living Walnut Tree census for Nantgarw piece 4029 folio 057 schedual 264 Margaret is married to Thomas Morgan he is aged 61yrs and margaret 34yrs a bit on an age gap with four young children and one son aged 22yrs.
Could margarets mother be living near her daughter in 1861?
(by 1868 Margarets husband Thomas has died and margaret marries a John Wright and this is when Mary comes to live with her) The time of magarets marriage she is living in Whitchurch cardiff.
Thanks for looking
cheers cardiff

[Chasing-fireflies]

There is one mary Jones of the right age living in Swansea at swan street with a son called David who is a tailor. It says she is born in carmarthenshire. All the others are born elsewhere. Could this be her?? I will look for margaret now.

[cardiff]

Hi
Do not know if this is her but if that the only one I will keep her for further reference.I don't know if Margaret had a brother but her fathers name was david so it's possible how old is david and where is he born.
cheers cardiff

[Chasing-fireflies]

I dont think its them as the son is 42 and born in carmarthen. No sign of Margaret under Jones or Morgan!!! It must be as these discs are not complete. Your best bet would be to post another message for the 1841 census for Mary and i will keep searching the 1851. Its such a common name but really frustrating when you know someone is hiding!!!