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Offline LibbyW

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Lost family on 1851, can you see them?
« on: Friday 17 March 06 14:50 GMT (UK) »
My GGGGGrandparents are missing presumed dead, but can't be....  but their children are also missing. I have found Charles and William in later census's.

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John and Clarissa BINGHAM I have no DOB but they married in 1812 in Shoreditch.

Joseph Bernard BINGHAM 1812 Shoreditch he married an Elizabeth in 1837 by 1851 they have Joseph Barnard 1838 Marylebone, Charles Henry Bingham 1840 Marylebone, Elizabeth Ellen Bingham 1844 Croyden, Joseph Packer Bingham 1848 Croyden.
Now William Packer is born 1853 Bridgewater Somerset. So they must be still alive!!!

Can anyone help please

Libby
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Perry:- Middlesex, Hertford, Essex.  Britton:- Middlesex, London, Gloucester.  Murray:- Lancashire.  Lee:- Liverpool.  Bennison:- Cumberland, Yorkshire? Robins:- Liverpool, London, Devon.  Procter:- Liverpool. Westhead :- Liverpool. Norman :- Essex, Suffolk. Kitchener:- Bedford, Middlesex. Marriage:- Middlesex. Chopping:- Hertford.

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Re: Lost family on 1851, can you see them?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 March 06 15:45 GMT (UK) »
I've found Joseph Bernard.

He's on Saint John Street, Bridgewater, Somerset

Joseph Bernard Bingham Head Mar 38 Coachmaker Middlesex, Shoreditch
Eliza " Wife Mar 42 Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Charles " Son 11 Middlesex, Marylebone
Eliza " Daur 6 Surrey, Croydon

HO107/1925 Folio 315 page 24

Let me rummage for the others

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Re: Lost family on 1851, can you see them?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 March 06 15:54 GMT (UK) »
You probably know this but Joseph Packer Bingham died in Bridgewater  3rd quarter 1849 Vol 10 page 233. So that's why he's not on the 1851 with his parents. Now, where on earth are John and Clarissa?

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Re: Lost family on 1851, can you see them?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 March 06 16:40 GMT (UK) »
Hello, Libby,

I have also found the census entries 1861, '71.'81 & '91 you  have for Charles & William Bingham, I found also the deaths for Joseph Barnard, 1838 & Joseph Packer 1849'

There is also another death that might prove interesting.

Death
Joseph BURNARD Bingham
Mar. 1888  Northampton  3b  38  aged 75  b circa 1813

children bapt, by John & Clarissa Bingham
Joseph BURNARD Bingham
born   19th Oct. 1812
bapt   17th Jan  1813    St Leonards Shoreditch

Mary Ann Bingham
born 12th Feb.  1814
bapt  11th Mar 1814   St Leonards  Shoreditch

Clarissa Bingham
born  20th Feb  1824 
bapt  19th Mar  1824  St. Leonards  Shoreditch

Marriage
John Bingham  =  Clarissa Packer
7th Jan  1812   St Leonards  Shoreditch

re. the birth of William Packer Bingham, do you have this birth cert. ?   It would certainly confirm the parent's names & would possibly gice an address in Bridgewater

Birth
William Packer Bingham
Mar   1853  Bridgewater   5c  485
 
Hope this is all useful,

Meliora
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Re: Lost family on 1851, can you see them?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 March 06 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Thank you stuizzy excellent find on the 1851 census, I've never been good at thinking outside the box ;D

Meliora  I gaily posted my message with out completing it I did know about Mary Ann and Clarissa, I'm sorry. My descendants come through Mary. thank you for those deaths, I suspected about Joseph junior but hadn't proved it.
I wonder if both Clarissa's have died? It is also possible that both parents had also, presuming when they married they would be about 20yrs old on the 1851 census would make them about 59ish.

Libby

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Perry:- Middlesex, Hertford, Essex.  Britton:- Middlesex, London, Gloucester.  Murray:- Lancashire.  Lee:- Liverpool.  Bennison:- Cumberland, Yorkshire? Robins:- Liverpool, London, Devon.  Procter:- Liverpool. Westhead :- Liverpool. Norman :- Essex, Suffolk. Kitchener:- Bedford, Middlesex. Marriage:- Middlesex. Chopping:- Hertford.