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Eastbourne 1936 ocklynge
« on: Saturday 18 March 06 12:59 GMT (UK) »
HI
I AM LOOKING TO GET A FEEL OF EASTBOURNE IN 1936,  THE OCKLYNGE AREA.

I HAVE FOUND MY RELATIVES GRAVES IN THE ABOVE CEMETERY, BUT HAVE NO IDEA OF THE ADDRESS THEY CAME FROM,ANY ONE KNOW HOW I WOULD FIND THIS OUT.THEY DIED IN MARCH 1935 AND MAY 1936THEY WERE JOSEPHINE JALLAND AND ALFRED GIBSON JALLAND.

IS THERE A MAP I CAN LOOK AT FOR THIS TIME WAS THIS AREA A PROSPEROUS ONE?

THANKS

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Re: Eastbourne 1936 ocklynge
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 March 06 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Me again Valerie,
There is an Eastbourne History Society, I'm sure they might give you some information about Ocklynge or suggest some books that might give you a flavour of the village in the 30s,
http://www.eastbournehistory.org.uk/publications/index.html

Jane
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Re: Eastbourne 1936 ocklynge
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 March 06 01:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Ocklynge cemetery was (I think) a town cemetery rather than one linked with a church.  It served all of Eastbourne and at that time most probably was the main burial ground for all of Eastbourne. 

In the 1930 Kelly's Directory there is a Mrs Jalland listed as living at 11 Granville Road.  I don't know whether this was your Jallands or not but the fact that she was listed in the Private Residents portion may point to some level of prosperity.  I would also assume that they were prosperous since Alfred was a graduate of Cambridge University.

After 1861 Alfred seems to have disappeared from the census.  Any idea where he was?

Regards

Mark
Milton - Brighton, Eastbourne
Foord - Westham, Ringmer
Sellens/Sellins/Sellings - Sedlescombe, Crowhurst
Cash - Tonbridge, Kent
Harding - Horsham
Bodle - Hailsham, Alfriston
Crowhurst - Hailsham, Westham
Roods/Roads/Rhodes - Hailsham, Westham
Sinnock - Hailsham
Silsby - Brighton
Thomas - Brighton
Tullett - Brighton
Verrall - Sussex

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Re: Eastbourne 1936 ocklynge
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 March 06 12:33 GMT (UK) »
Wow Mark this I did not know, he was married to my grandmothers sister and I really do not know much about him.

I have seen a business card of his which states his name and an address of 41 Herbert road SW9, I have been trying to get some leads on this but no luck until now.

How did you come by this infomation?

Thanks so much I will go back to my Irish roots to see if I can place him, maybe he was at Herbert Road London, do you know what took at Cambridge we allways thought he was a doctor of something.

Thanks again

Valerie




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Re: Eastbourne 1936 ocklynge
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 March 06 15:03 GMT (UK) »
Valerie,
The information came from several sources.  The information about Ocklynge came from personal knowledge (I grew up in Eastbourne and have many relatives buried there).  The information from the Kelly's directory came from a CD that I have and the information regarding his attendance at Cambridge came from a major subscription website.

Here's a bit more information.  In Mar Q 1884, Jeannie Josephine D'E Burns married Alfred Gibson Jalland in Chorlton District, Lancashire.  I assume that Jeannie Josephine was your grandmother's sister.

Alfred Gibson Jalland was admitted to Sidney College, Cambridge in October 1879, matriculated (was formally admitted to the University) in Michelmas term 1879 and migrated to Downing College on Jan 25 1883.


In 1861, Alfred G Jalland was age 7 months and living with his family at Castle Gate, Nottingham. 

RG9/2468/59/11

Robert Jalland; Head; age 60; Architect and Lawyer; b Nottingham
Mary Jalland; Wife; age 30; b Carleton Le Moorland, Lincs
Catherine C Jalland; Daughter; age 10; b Nottingham
Albert G Jalland; Son; age 7 months; b Nottingham
Elizabeth Worlridge; Servant; age 17; General Servant; b Arnold, Notts

Robert Jalland was born in abt 1801 in Nottingham.

I think that this was the marriage of his grandparents:
Upton, Notts
Robert Jalland, p. Rolleston, and Elizabeth Gibson, lic. 07 Jul 1762

The licence is:
06 Jul 1762 Robert Jalland, of Rolleston, farmer, aged above 31, bach., & Elizabeth Gibson, of Upton, spr., aged above 28; at Upton.

There is an Ancestry World Tree entry for Robert Jalland that gives his ancestors.  Roberts first wife was Jane Doyle and his second wife was Mary Carr.

The mention of Herbert St in London was interesting, since in 1881, Jeannie Burns was living at 2 Herbert St, London with her parents Edward and Margaret and brother Edward.  However, Jeannie was only 10 at that time which would mean that she was only 14 when she married Alfred.  Something doesn't seem correct there.  This may just be a coincidence. 

If you provide some details of your grandmother (name, date and place of birth), I may be able to find some more information.

Best Wishes

Mark
Milton - Brighton, Eastbourne
Foord - Westham, Ringmer
Sellens/Sellins/Sellings - Sedlescombe, Crowhurst
Cash - Tonbridge, Kent
Harding - Horsham
Bodle - Hailsham, Alfriston
Crowhurst - Hailsham, Westham
Roods/Roads/Rhodes - Hailsham, Westham
Sinnock - Hailsham
Silsby - Brighton
Thomas - Brighton
Tullett - Brighton
Verrall - Sussex

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Re: Eastbourne 1936 ocklynge
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 March 06 15:32 GMT (UK) »
 ???  ???  ???  Are we talking 1936 or 1836 here???

A very puzzled Jane  ???
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Re: Eastbourne 1936 ocklynge
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 March 06 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Jane,
I'm pretty sure that we are talking about a burial in Ocklynge Cemetery in 1936.  I think that Ocklynge cemetery was first used in the late 1850s  (1856 Formation of a Burial Board at Ocklynge Cemetery).  I have traced Albert Jalland to his birth in 1860 and was able to find details of his father Robert (b 1801) and his grandfather (also Robert) - hence the dates in the 1700s.

Regards

Mark
Milton - Brighton, Eastbourne
Foord - Westham, Ringmer
Sellens/Sellins/Sellings - Sedlescombe, Crowhurst
Cash - Tonbridge, Kent
Harding - Horsham
Bodle - Hailsham, Alfriston
Crowhurst - Hailsham, Westham
Roods/Roads/Rhodes - Hailsham, Westham
Sinnock - Hailsham
Silsby - Brighton
Thomas - Brighton
Tullett - Brighton
Verrall - Sussex

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Eastbourne 1936 ocklynge
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 March 06 16:01 GMT (UK) »
 ::)  Took me a while but I've got it now!

Jane
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Re: Eastbourne 1936 ocklynge
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 March 06 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Hello Mark

What can I say but a great big thank you for the fantastic infomation, it would have taken me for ever to come up with all that how fantastic

I started this for my first cousin in Dublin and I am now going back for more info so will be in touch .

You know the more i get into family history it seems to me that if you came from a family with money which means education you can find out so much more about your family my other side coming from Wales  with a name like Davies and being poor as church mice and all there births marrages and deaths conducted  in chapels makes them so hard to trace. 

Thank you so much

Valerie