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Offline marion knez

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john patrick redmond came to australia c late 1880's 02 early 1890's
« on: Wednesday 22 March 06 04:59 GMT (UK) »
 I am looking for john patrick redmond who was born in liverpool. england . h
e had a sister elizabeth redmond born in dublin.
 the family came to australia before 1892 because he married, in australia i,n 1892
i was wondering which ship the family came out on, if  there are  other family members-
he may have been round 30 years old when he came to austrlaia, but i don't really know much about him.
Thanks  :)
marion
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Re: john patrick redmond came to australia c late 1880's 02 early 1890's
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 March 06 05:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Marion,
Have you checked the NSW State Records online indexes to assisted and unassisted immigrants?  You might find something there:

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/indexes_online_3357.asp

Good luck with your search!
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Re: john patrick redmond came to australia c late 1880's 02 early 1890's
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 March 06 07:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Marion

Which state did John marry in?

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Re: john patrick redmond came to australia c late 1880's 02 early 1890's
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 March 06 10:44 GMT (UK) »
Where in Australia do you think he married

and what were their parents names
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Re: john patrick redmond came to australia c late 1880's 02 early 1890's
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 02:37 BST (UK) »
Have found a marriage in Victoria for John Redmond (b Liverpool) to Marion Etheline Isabel Giles in 1892 reg nu: 3864 ( Victorian Federation Inex c.d. )

For births I found the following:
Redmond - Mona Winifred b 1897 at Tallarook Vic to John Redmond and Marion Etheline Mathieson reg 23155 Federation Index c.d. 
Death of Mona  aged 4 at Tallarook 1902 - father listed as John, mother as Marion Mathewson reg 3637 Edwardian Index c.d.

Redmond -Patrick John b 1894 at Tallarook Vic to John Redmond and Marion Etheline Mathieson reg 33403 Federation Index c.d.

Redmond Marion Isabel died 1937 aged 80 years  in Richmond,Victoria,  father John Mathieson, mother unknown reg 3238 Victorian Death index c.d  1921-1985

Possible deaths for John in Victoria:
1) John Thomas died 1933 aged 75 years St. Melbourne , father Patrick, mother Ellen O'Toole, reg 4829

2) John died 1929 aged 60 years at Melbourne East, father John, mother Mary O'Connor reg 15305

Also found more children:
surname KELLY, Irene Isobel died 1972 aged 84 years Camberwell Victoria , father listed as John Redmond, mother as Marion Matheison reg 9505 (birth year abt 1888)

Coman Eleanor Mary died 1958 aged 62 years Camberwell Vic, father John P Redmond, mother Marion Mathieson reg 1590 (birthyear abt 1896 )

Redmond Darcy Joseph died 1971 aged 85 at Geelong Victoria, father John, mother Marion Mathieson reg 8709  ( birthyear abt 1886)
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It seems that a few of the children were born before they married, or maybe they were to her first husband as she was listed as Giles.. I had a look for their births and nothing in Victoria ( I'd say probably before they came out here)
While having a look for marriages for Irene to a Kelly, I found this one:
Redmond Harry b Ireland married Lillie Beatrice Henrietta KELLY 1904 in Vic reg 6442 ( could he also be a child of John and Marions?

Iren Dorothy Giles Redmond married 1921 in Victoria to Victor Stanley Kelly reg 1383 ( Victorian marriages 1921 -1945 c.d.) - Victor died 1971 aged 74 at Camberwell Vic parents Michael and Katherine.

Irene and Victor had the following known children:
 Leo Maxwell Kelly who died in 1964 aged 36 at Burwood Vic reg 18062
 Irene Marie Kelly died  1985 aged 63 at Heidleberg reg 01536


Eleanor Mary Redmond married 1923 in Victoria Michael Francis Coman reg 4704 ( source as above)



Darcy Joseph married 1924 in Victoria to Annie Johnson reg 7946 source as above
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Eleanor and Michael had the following children:
Genevieve Margaret died 1935 aged 7 years at Carlton reg 366
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Darcy and Annie had the following known children
Darcy Joseph died 1968 aged 40 father Darcy, mother Annie Johnson
John Thomas died 1968 aged 44 father Darcy, mother Annie Johnson
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I've sourced these children from Digger death index.. you'll probably find more from other sources.

Hope this all helps you
Regards
Karen


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Re: john patrick redmond came to australia c late 1880's 02 early 1890's
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 07:54 BST (UK) »
John, son of Patrick and Ellen I'd say is not yours as he came out when he was 4 years old.. Jun 1863 on the Maori with his parents Ellen and Patrick and his sister Eleanor.

I've looked on unassisted immigration to Victoria: 
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23
 under Redmond and also tried Giles, targeted Eleanor Irene and Darcy  with no result.

Karen