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Re: Death of Henry Shaw, Ottawa
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 04 June 06 15:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks JJ!  Your 'straws' are appreciated!  :)  I think I found the James Smith born Carleton in 1881, and added him to my 'maybe?' list, but there's still no way of definitely making a connection.

The orphanage story is pretty plausible - one of my aunts said that my grandfather "didn't know his parents and was brought up in a White Fathers' [?] or Christian Brothers' home".  They treated him badly, apparently, and he ran away to sea...... so the story goes. 

What I need to happen now is to find that there was a Christian Brothers' orphanage in ?Ottawa, for which exemplary records have been kept, ideally with photos and info on the orphans!  (Some pigs just flew past....  ;))

Thanks, though, for your help!  :)

Clara
Shaw/Smith: Ottawa, Canada<br />Davies/Hill: Monmouth/Gloucestershire/Middlesex/Surrey<br />Chatfield: Kent<br />Crone: Kent/Sussex/Surrey/Ireland<br />Lyden: Ireland<br />Pannell, Newland, Proudley (travellers): Sussex/Surrey<br />Dobson, Hollins: Staffs/Cheshire/Warwicks<br />Boys: Sussex/London<br />Payne: Suffolk/London
Hasting(s): Sussex

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Re: Death of Henry Shaw, Ottawa
« Reply #55 on: Monday 05 June 06 00:03 BST (UK) »
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~orphanshome/
http://resources.rootsweb.com/~guestbook/cgi-bin/public_guestbook.cgi?gb=1241&action=view

Perhaps information can be found here on what orphanages were around before the turn of the century...some people seem to have had some luck with their inquiries...

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Re: Death of Henry Shaw, Ottawa
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 06 June 06 22:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Clara,

I don't have much more concrete to add to your search, but just a few random research tidbits. 

The schools commonly known as "Christian Brothers Schools" seem to be run by the De la Salle Brothers of the Christian School (founded 1700s).  Here is their main website:

http://www.lasalle2.org/English/english.php

And a tidbit from the history section of the site:"Southern Belgium, Canada and Spain profited most strongly initially from the expatriate Brothers".

But I can't seem to find out if they ever had a school in Ottawa.  We do now have a De la Salle Catholic High School here in Ottawa, but that may just be coincidence as de la Salle is the patron saint of catholic teachers. 

We also have a street named Avenue des Peres-Blancs (White Fathers Ave.)  The Peres Blancs are an order of missionaries based in France.  I don't know what their history in Ottawa is, but this site gives a contact for the Ottawa office of the Peres Blancs:

Animation missionnaire
Ottawa
Adr. : 252, avenue Argyle, Ottawa ON K2P 1B9
Tel : (1)(613) 233-8259
FAX : (1)(613) 236-6806
E-Mail : mafrott@aei.ca

Source: http://www.africamission-mafr.org/adresses.htm

Random other bits:

Photo of workers on the Peres Blancs farm in Vanier (now Ottawa) http://www.uottawa.ca/academic/crccf/passeport/I/ID3/ID3a01.html

Bio of a priest who studied at the Peres Blancs seminary in Ottawa:
http://www.diocese-st-hyacinthe.qc.ca/contenu_langevin.htm

So they did have quite a presence here.  (Peres Blancs Avenue is now the address of one branch of the Ottawa Public Librarry, so when you do a Google search you get a lot of hits for events going on there...)

Still can't find out if they ran a children's home here though... Argh! 

Hope that helps anyway...

MJP
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Re: Death of Henry Shaw, Ottawa
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 07 June 06 08:11 BST (UK) »
Wow, thanks so much, JJ and MJP!!  :)

All those leads have renewed my failing hopes a bit and will keep me occupied for a while.....

Many thanks, will let you know if I come up with anything....!!

best wishes

Clara
Shaw/Smith: Ottawa, Canada<br />Davies/Hill: Monmouth/Gloucestershire/Middlesex/Surrey<br />Chatfield: Kent<br />Crone: Kent/Sussex/Surrey/Ireland<br />Lyden: Ireland<br />Pannell, Newland, Proudley (travellers): Sussex/Surrey<br />Dobson, Hollins: Staffs/Cheshire/Warwicks<br />Boys: Sussex/London<br />Payne: Suffolk/London
Hasting(s): Sussex