1841-1871 Census Lookups please HANSFORD family, Dorset

[allycat]

Hi.  I've just discovered that my grandfather's grandmother came from Dorset.  Her name was Elizabeth HANSFORD born 1852 Dorset.  Her parents names were Alfred HANSFORD and unknown unknown.  No siblings known of at this stage.

Extra info - Elizabeth married 16 May 1875 Westminster groom Ernest Friedrich August JAHN or JANUS.

Three children from marriage: Louise 1876, Mary 1879 and Annie JAHN 1880 all born London, England.

Any details gleaned whatsoever will be gratefully appreciated.

Keen genealogist downunder.  Allycat.

[Tati]

Hi Allycat,

I'm having trouble identifying her on previous census records so far but this looks good for the marriage:
June quarter 1875
Westminster registration district
Elizabeth Hansford - Ernst Jahn
Volume 1a page 811

Tanja 

[Tati]

In 1881, she claims Westminster as her birthplace:

RG11/125 8 10
Westminster St James, London, England
55-59 Wardour? Street
Ernest Jahn, head, 30, Bootmaker, b. Germany
Elizabeth, wife, 26, b. Middlesex Westminster
Louise, dau, 4, b. do.
Mary, dau, 2, b. do.
Annie, dau, 1, b. do.

[allycat]

Hi Allycat,

I'm having trouble identifying her on previous census records so far but this looks good for the marriage:
June quarter 1875
Westminster registration district
Elizabeth Hansford - Ernst Jahn
Volume 1a page 811

Tanja 

Dear Tanja - wow, you're quick.  That's most definitely them.  My English relations who are descendants of the Woodcocks/Jahns spell our gg grandfather's christian name that way - Ernst instead of Ernest.

Any more info would be great if you can manage it.  Thanks.  Allycat. 

[Tati]

I don't know how positive you are about her being born in Dorset, but this would tie up nicely:

1861
RG9/47 65 33
Westminster St John, Middlesex
21 Wilton Street
Ellen Hansford, head, wid, 41, Laundress, b. Suffolk Horwich
George, son, 17, b. Westminster St John
Sarah, dau, 15, scholar, b. do.
Emma, dau, 12, scholar, b. do.
Ellen, dau, 10, sholar, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 8, scholar, b. do.
Alfred, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
Richard, son, 3, scholar, b. do.

and going back to  1851
HO107/1479 358 19
Westminster St John the Evangelist
47 Peter? Street
Alfred Hansford, head, 27, Painter, b. Devon
Ellen, wife, 31, Dressmaker, b. Essex
George, son, 6, b. St John the Evangelist
Sarah, dau, 5, b. do.
Emma, dau, 1, b. do

What do you think?

[allycat]

I don't know how positive you are about her being born in Dorset, but this would tie up nicely:

1861
RG9/47 65 33
Westminster St John, Middlesex
21 Wilton Street
Ellen Hansford, head, wid, 41, Laundress, b. Suffolk Horwich
George, son, 17, b. Westminster St John
Sarah, dau, 15, scholar, b. do.
Emma, dau, 12, scholar, b. do.
Ellen, dau, 10, sholar, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 8, scholar, b. do.
Alfred, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
Richard, son, 3, scholar, b. do.

and going back to  1851
HO107/1479 358 19
Westminster St John the Evangelist
47 Peter? Street
Alfred Hansford, head, 27, Painter, b. Devon
Ellen, wife, 31, Dressmaker, b. Essex
George, son, 6, b. St John the Evangelist
Sarah, dau, 5, b. do.
Emma, dau, 1, b. do

What do you think?

Dear Tati/Tanja, Your right, that could be my ancestor's family alright.  I actually have no proof of her birth in Dorset, this was supplied to me by my rellies in England.

Thank you very very much.  I sincerely appreciate your efforts.

Alison.

[allibaker]

both baptised in soho st annes,westminster to parents elizabeth and ernst jahn-
emily born 17th may 1886 bapt 10th feb 1904
ellen born 4th jan 1888 bapt 10th feb 1904 same date as her sister.
regards
alli

[allibaker]

a few other details you might not have-
louisa jahn married charles woodcock 4th aug 1895 at soho st annes westminster.brides age 19yrs grooms age 22yrs.brides father ernst jahn and grooms father george james woodcock.
also-
annie elizabeth jahn married alexander woodcock(2 sisters marrying 2 brothers~)12th april 1903 at soho st annes westminster.grooms father george james woodcock and brides father ernst jahn.grooms age 25yrs and brides age 23yrs
hope this helps?
regards
alli

[allycat]

both baptised in soho st annes,westminster to parents elizabeth and ernst jahn-
emily born 17th may 1886 bapt 10th feb 1904
ellen born 4th jan 1888 bapt 10th feb 1904 same date as her sister.
regards
alli

Dear Allibaker, Hi.  I'm totally confused.  I have never seen those two children's names before.  Are you saying that there is an Emily Jahn and Ellen Jahn born to parents Ernst Jahn and Elizabeth Hansford?

If so, these are two totally new people that neither myself in Qld, Australia nor three branches of our combined Woodcock / Jahn / Hansford tree in England know about!   

All we had in our tree/s this past 30 odd years or so has been three children's names - Louise Jahn b1876, Mary Jahn b1879 and Annie Elizabeth Jahn b1880 my g.grandmother.  Definitely all from Westminster area though.

Can you confirm this?

Allycat.