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Re: Born at Waterloo? and Sgt. Donald Campbell 42nd
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 27 April 06 15:54 BST (UK) »


OK Garen !

I'm probably trying to teach my Grandmother to suck eggs ..... but here goes !! :P  sometimes I forget to go back to basics ....... just a thought !  ::) ::) ::)

Using Hugh Wallis's website - find the batch number for Caputh / Clunie baptisms of the right timespan -  then go to the online IGI -  on the online IGI -  input region = British Isles, and batch number = eg C113371  then search (no names or dates input).

That returns a long list (a few hundred) and page down until the Campbell / Stevenson's appear
Checking those records should give the birth and baptism dates and the parents' names.

Caputh

C113371
  1855-1875 
M113371
  1855-1875 

C113372
  1670-1719 
M113372
  1671-1720 

C113374
  1721-1783 
M113374
  1721-1784 

C113375
  1783-1819 
M113375
  1783-1820 

C113376
  1820-1854 
M113376
  1820-1854

Clunie

C113391
  1855-1875 
M113391
  1855-1875 

C113392
  1702-1753 
M113392
  1702-1753 

C113394
  1754-1820 
M113394
  1794-1819 

C113395
  1820-1855 
M113395
  1820-1854 

Annie  :)
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Re: Born at Waterloo? and Sgt. Donald Campbell 42nd
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 April 06 06:23 BST (UK) »

OK Garen !!

After some discussion regarding your family ...... not a whole heck of a lot but a couple of things that may "spark" you !!

1. Wonder whether there are any mentions of Catherine's parents in the Caputh/Clunie area - MIs or deaths in parish registers ...   as above !

2. The 1841 enumerator's dilema over what to put for Catherine's birthplace -  the choices .......  in county -  elsewhere in Scotland -  in England -  Ireland or Foreign -  don't cover a British Subject born overseas!  So ignore 1841 and accept what all the other censuses say !

3. You might like to use the search facility on TalkingScot about British births in France - and perhaps even post there - if you haven't already done so - there's also a bit of military expertise on that site - worth a shot !!

http://www.talkingscot.com

4. You didn't mention the actual entries in the Parish Registers for Catherine's marriage and for the births of the children -  wonder if there might be any clues in the wording or in names of witnesses or sponsors ?

Hope you're having a good week !

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Re: Born at Waterloo? and Sgt. Donald Campbell 42nd
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 04 May 06 12:24 BST (UK) »
Annie - apologies for the delay in thanking you... got some diearies from the Afghan war, plus a marvellous old book, and they (and that thing called work) have kept me away, as usual, from my own family history.

Sincere thanks for all your thinking on this. I hadn't really considered the batch searches, haven't used them for a few years and have fallen out of the habit.

For the other points:

1) All I can say is not in the Clunie graveyard, which I tramped around in 2002, and then got the MIs later, but worth looking into. My feeling is they weren't in Clunie, but I woin't rely on my feelings!

2) 1841 is 'Born in County? N', so that's consistent.

3) I made one post of Talking Scot a little while ago, then forgot about it. Thanks - I will get over there.

4) OPRs: I have marriage of Donald Cameron and Catherine Campbell 15th Aug 1837 (in the absence of anyone else, I'm 90% confident they're mine)which says 'both of this Parish' (Caputh), no witnesses mentioned (from scotlandspeople). No clues on the childrens' birth OPRs either really - all very basic.

I spent some credits on the scotlandspeople 1841 census looking at Campbells and Camerons in the Clunie/Caputh area, with nothing positive. Thanks again Annie, you have given me some good ideas.
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Re: Born at Waterloo? and Sgt. Donald Campbell 42nd
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Twelve years later, an update ...

I now know that Catherine Campbell was indeed born in France, and that the information on her death certificate was (mostly) correct - her father was, as recorded, Donald Campbell, a sergeant in the 42nd Foot, her mother was Barbara Stevens.

Donald seems to have been born in Halkirk, Caithness and enlisted at Glasgow in Aug 1802, he was made sergeant in Sept 1807. He had a son in Gibraltar in 1807/08, and another at Musselburgh in 1810. Catherine would probably have been born in France while the 42nd were part of the occupying army after Waterloo, so perhaps in Paris in the second half of the year. The regiment (and family) would have been back in Britain in December 1815.

Catherine Campbell was a brick wall for nearly 18 years, so it's great to at last shine a light on her story and reveal her family, and some cousins for her children. The key was discovering the baptism of a brother, Alexander - such a great feeling to see names I'd had with a huge question mark on them for so long there in black and white :-)

Now to see if I can solve the other brick wall - her husband, Donald Cameron! Perhaps I'll be back with that answer in another twelve years ...

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Re: Born at Waterloo? and Sgt. Donald Campbell 42nd
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 23:24 GMT (UK) »
There's a wee village in Perthshire called Waterloo?  Naw?  :P

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Re: Born at Waterloo? and Sgt. Donald Campbell 42nd
« Reply #14 on: Monday 11 November 19 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Another update - I have now discovered, I think, the origins of Catherine Campbell's mother, Barbara Steven (Stevens/Stevenson). It turns out she had three husbands in the 42nd Foot. Here's an article on it all:

'Finding Mrs Keir'

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Re: Born at Waterloo? and Sgt. Donald Campbell 42nd
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 12 November 19 08:50 GMT (UK) »
Very good post Garen!  ;D

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Re: Born at Waterloo? and Sgt. Donald Campbell 42nd
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 24 November 19 23:27 GMT (UK) »
A late reply - but thank you, Skoosh :-)
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