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Re: Missing William Torvil Patterson last seen Victoria
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 May 08 04:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Sarra, The first link is my post on that web site.  Yes I have seen the second web site.  Cheers.
BRUSASCHI, Italy, Vic, Australia
FOWELL, England
HUSTON, Ireland, Victoria Australia, New Zealand
JONES,  Glamorgan Wales, Vic, Australia
KENNEDY, Ireland to Victoria Australia
KITTELTY, Tasmania, Vic, Austalia & New Zealand,
MAGEE, New Zealand & Vic, Australia
McINDOE,  Scotland, Vic, Australia
POAD, New Zealand, Australia, England 
ROWLAND, Glamorgan, Wales, Vic, Australia  SALLEY, Ireland, Victoria, Australia 
STAPLETON, Tipperary Ireland, Vic, Australia
STERNBERG, Germany to Victoria Aust

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Re: Missing William Torvil Patterson last seen Victoria
« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 May 08 04:11 BST (UK) »
Yes I have checked the divorces   :)  Myself and several other cousins have been hunting everywhere and haven't been able to find William. 
There is a family rumour that William was possibly in trouble with the law.
Others think he could possibly have changed his name.
Others think he may have gone overseas.
I am hoping someone may know of him.
BRUSASCHI, Italy, Vic, Australia
FOWELL, England
HUSTON, Ireland, Victoria Australia, New Zealand
JONES,  Glamorgan Wales, Vic, Australia
KENNEDY, Ireland to Victoria Australia
KITTELTY, Tasmania, Vic, Austalia & New Zealand,
MAGEE, New Zealand & Vic, Australia
McINDOE,  Scotland, Vic, Australia
POAD, New Zealand, Australia, England 
ROWLAND, Glamorgan, Wales, Vic, Australia  SALLEY, Ireland, Victoria, Australia 
STAPLETON, Tipperary Ireland, Vic, Australia
STERNBERG, Germany to Victoria Aust

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Re: Missing William Torvil Patterson last seen Victoria
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 May 08 06:10 BST (UK) »
Hi
I see William was born in Germany, do you know if he was a German citizen? or whether his father was British?  I was wondering as to whether German citizens were interned in WW1 and, if so, whether there is a list perhaps in the National Archives

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Re: Missing William Torvil Patterson last seen Victoria
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 16 July 14 08:36 BST (UK) »
Still searching for William Torval Patterson

gone missing

any help or suggestions would be appreciated
BRUSASCHI, Italy, Vic, Australia
FOWELL, England
HUSTON, Ireland, Victoria Australia, New Zealand
JONES,  Glamorgan Wales, Vic, Australia
KENNEDY, Ireland to Victoria Australia
KITTELTY, Tasmania, Vic, Austalia & New Zealand,
MAGEE, New Zealand & Vic, Australia
McINDOE,  Scotland, Vic, Australia
POAD, New Zealand, Australia, England 
ROWLAND, Glamorgan, Wales, Vic, Australia  SALLEY, Ireland, Victoria, Australia 
STAPLETON, Tipperary Ireland, Vic, Australia
STERNBERG, Germany to Victoria Aust

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Re: Missing William Torvil Patterson last seen Victoria
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 July 14 10:36 BST (UK) »
Hi
Patterson does not sound to me to be a German name. Do you know if Patterson was  his surname at birth? What about his immigration records?

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Re: Missing William Torvil Patterson last seen Victoria
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 17 July 14 11:32 BST (UK) »
Do you have any of the children's birth certificates?

You really need to get the 1896 one, I think. That will show you the family address, William's occupation at the time, etc, and may give you an idea of whether or not he actually hung around until the last daughter was born or if he was gone by then.

Given the region William was from (Schleswig-Holstein) he may be Petersen originally and Torvil/Torval = Torvald/Thorvald?
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Re: Missing William Torvil Patterson last seen Victoria
« Reply #15 on: Monday 21 July 14 03:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies

William Torval Patterson occupation Carpenter

Mother:  Petronilla Larson

Father: Parker Nilson Patterson, occupation Soldier

They may have been Danish, before Schleswig Holstein, became part of Germany, but not sure about the historical time line of this


There is an account of court proceeding in the newspaper where William had evidently assaulted his step-daughters fiancee and William was referred to as "that excitable foreigner". 

So I guess that it would have been the Ararat Newspaper,  but cannot find anything relating to this family story on the trove web site.

William has got 2 step daughters
Harriett Ellin Jones b 1874 Ararat, married 1899 William Pat Procter or Proctor
Eliza Fry Jones b 1876 Ararat, cant find marriage date, but her daughter was born 1910

That would mean that William was still in Ararat before 1899



Possibilities, I havent been able to follow these through, not sure if any of these
might be him   

William Patterson Inquest 10 Oct 1925 Ref 1138 Pulmonary oedema 

William T H Patterson Inquest 15 May 1925 ref 586 Accident fall from bed Died 1934

cert 11397/1897  PATTERSON  WILLIAM death
parents  UNKNOWN  COLLARENEBRI  NSW

death 7779/1902  PATERSON  WILLIAM        SYDNEY   
death 2384/1903  PATERSON  WILLIAM        WEST MAITLAND, NSW   
 
Mr W Patterson aged 45 (b1857) Ship Warrigal Departed Dec 1902
Destination Natal Capetown London via Ports


BRUSASCHI, Italy, Vic, Australia
FOWELL, England
HUSTON, Ireland, Victoria Australia, New Zealand
JONES,  Glamorgan Wales, Vic, Australia
KENNEDY, Ireland to Victoria Australia
KITTELTY, Tasmania, Vic, Austalia & New Zealand,
MAGEE, New Zealand & Vic, Australia
McINDOE,  Scotland, Vic, Australia
POAD, New Zealand, Australia, England 
ROWLAND, Glamorgan, Wales, Vic, Australia  SALLEY, Ireland, Victoria, Australia 
STAPLETON, Tipperary Ireland, Vic, Australia
STERNBERG, Germany to Victoria Aust

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Re: Missing William Torvil Patterson last seen Victoria
« Reply #16 on: Monday 21 July 14 09:22 BST (UK) »
Possibilities, I havent been able to follow these through, not sure if any of these might be him  
William Patterson Inquest 10 Oct 1925 Ref 1138 Pulmonary oedema 
William T H Patterson Inquest 15 May 1925 ref 586 Accident fall from bed Died 1934

Details for the above two William PATTERSON's:

1. Death is registered at KEW & he is buried at Springvale Botanical Cemetery, 8 October 1925.

Death:

PATTERSON Wm 50yrs d. 1925 KEW 14002
Father: Unknown
Mother: Unknown  UNKNOWN

Burial:

http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/27980
http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch


2.  Death is registered at MELBOURNE & he was buried at Fawkner Memorial Park, 10/05/1934 with his mother.

Death:

PATTERSON Wm Thos Huntley 79yrs d. 1934 MELB #4043
Father: Andw Walt PATTERSON
Mother: Elizth  COTTER

Burial:

http://mapping.fcmp.com.au:1001/PubMapping/PrintOut.aspx?Cemetery=FCMP&DeceasedID=48805
http://mapping.fcmp.com.au:1001/Pubmapping/index.aspx

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Re: Missing William Torvil Patterson last seen Victoria
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 20 June 20 04:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your reply.   I am very sure Elizabeth Cotter is not his mother, so I can rule out that one.
BRUSASCHI, Italy, Vic, Australia
FOWELL, England
HUSTON, Ireland, Victoria Australia, New Zealand
JONES,  Glamorgan Wales, Vic, Australia
KENNEDY, Ireland to Victoria Australia
KITTELTY, Tasmania, Vic, Austalia & New Zealand,
MAGEE, New Zealand & Vic, Australia
McINDOE,  Scotland, Vic, Australia
POAD, New Zealand, Australia, England 
ROWLAND, Glamorgan, Wales, Vic, Australia  SALLEY, Ireland, Victoria, Australia 
STAPLETON, Tipperary Ireland, Vic, Australia
STERNBERG, Germany to Victoria Aust